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6 years ago when this article was written, yeah, there was some trepidation because this phrase was being used by the OUN. But they didn't create it, don't own it, it's not theirs. It's a slogan for broad Ukrainian support.
Hitler drank milk, but calcium is not just for fascists
So? The Nazis didn't invent the "Heil" salute, or the roman salute either.
Considering that there is substantial concern about fascists in Ukraine, I think it's better not to reproduce Bandera's salute.
Bandera's fascist gang also used a red and black flag very similar to the anarcho-communist one (and which you can see today in western Ukraine quite often) and I kinda think it is still ok for Anarchists to use that flag 😅
Things are often not so black and white 🤷♂️
The anarchist flag is both distinct and came before, though. And as I said in the other comment: the Nazis didn't invent "Heil!" or the roman salute, either.
It's easy to mistake and yes indeed it came before like the other examples. I think the difference is that the roman salute is already culturally not-ok to use, so still using it is an intentional sign. The Ukrainian slogan on the other hand is quite commonly used without bad intend (although most Ukrainians also do not know much about the fascist history of Bandera to be honest).
I'm wondering why you're still replying, considering that giving historical context of the phrase is apparently forbidden because of "no".
Sorry, I don't get you. Edit: ah, because the mod removed the original post? I didn't see that.