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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29824159

Bernie Sanders May 08, 2025

[based on speech given to US Senate]

"Thursday marks 68 days and counting since ANY humanitarian aid was allowed into Gaza. For more than nine weeks, Israel has blocked all supplies: no food, no water, no medicine, and no fuel.

Hundreds of truckloads of lifesaving supplies are waiting to enter Gaza, sitting just across the border, but are denied entry by Israeli authorities.

... Defense Minister Israel Katz said, “Israel’s policy is clear: No humanitarian aid will enter Gaza, and blocking this aid is one of the main pressure levers.” "

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But Australia tho.

But the entire EU tho.

But Canada tho.

But Brazil tho.

No one does anything. The US is crippled on the international front, this is literally the best time to stand up. Any country could go in and provide aid to Gaza. Any of them could stand up to Israel.

But none of them are, and no one cares. Especially here on lemmy where the only genocide that we talk about is the kind we can blame the US for.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The article posted mentions the United States. You are free to post articles about other states' complicity and start that conversation in a thread about the state/s you choose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh it’s you. I can talk about whatever I want wherever I want in the comments. So can you. That’s the point of the internet.

If you want to have a polite discussion where neither of us make personal insults or say “so you’re saying….” or

focus on random quotes to insult instead of making rational counterpoints

Then let me know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sir, between the two of us, only one of us has been rude and insulting. I'd welcome any url of any thread where I've done that.

Secondly, isn't this the red herrings and whataboutery people upset with any criticism of their exceptionalim constantly bang on about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not saying you have, I’m saying if you can have a conversation, let’s do it. We can see who breaks first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Post the article in a thread. I'm sure many of us will have plenty to say, if it posts in our feeds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We are right here. Let’s talk about how no country on earth is providing aid to Gaza. Let’s talk about WHY that is. It’s not because of the US is selling weapons.

Related, India is attacking Pakistan—~95% Muslim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. You don't get to throw a tantrum because your feelings are hurt and you're incapable of reflecting on our complicity in war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Is anyone else complicit?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Especially here on lemmy where the only genocide that we talk about is the kind we can blame the US for.

The thread is about how the US congress is silent about its complicity in the Gaza genocide. If you want to talk about how much you hate .ml and china (but actually just ml) that's fine, but don't pretend it's out of like to talk about the US' involvement in genocide in a thread about the US' involvement in genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right the entire topic is asking why a group of people aren’t talking about something. I’d like to expand that circle a little wider and ask, why the fuck as no one talking about it?

But I guess complaining about humanity is too broad for these people. They need something specific to hate. So let’s blame ~~Israel~~ the US.

I have no problem with China—just hypocritical ML, who don’t actually care about human lives in Gaza, just crushing the west.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have no problem with China—just hypocritical ML

You mean you support China's genocide of Uyghurs? You're consistent, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, only genocide that impacts the west matters. /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now you don't want to talk about China?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d be happy to talk about China—and everyone else—not helping the Muslim genocide.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to talk about the people who actively assist netanyahu with his genocide, since that's what the thread is about.

You only brought up China as a distraction until I started talking about the genocide they were directly involved in. Then for some reason you don't want to talk about them. Then again, you made it clear that you have no problem with genocidal China, just people to your left on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They aren’t to my left. They call themselves left, but that’s only lip service.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok. So anyone who is upset about the US' complicity in the genocide in Gaza but doesn't talk about China instead must be a tankie and therefore to your right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If that’s the take you want to have for the purpose of arguing online, I can’t stop you. I understand you can only see in black and white.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (50 children)

If you have a better summary of your position, go right ahead.

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