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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We need to pull all strings. I didn't say people don't need to get places. I just stated there are many cases where it's not required. Corona has shown what we could do if we wanted.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In wonder if, in terms of logistics, delivery of groceries and online shopping could be a good thing.

Of course not with instant-services like Flink. Of course not with single-use cardboard boxes and worker exploitation.

More like the good old milkman. People order their groceries, and they are delivered in reusable boxes next day, old boxes picked up. Same with online shopping.

Both is already a thing, but few do it. Maybe it would work much better if a huge percentage of people would do it, e. g. 15 % for grocery delivery. The grocery truck would not have to do more miles than if it would deliver to the current 1 % (guessed), just needs to be bigger and have more stops.

In communities that are not built to live car-less, that might save many individual car trips.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

At my place there are two supermarkets within 500m, no need for any driving besides one lorry supplying the markets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People will come up with any solution so long as it still relies on roads. The parent comment to this thread is all about tire dust and this solution just replaces private tire dust with commercial tire dust. The system you propose would still be more complicated, energy and resource intensive than people just taking transit to the groccery store.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing is, we don't have transit. And I'm pretty sure demolishing our cities and rebuilding them in order to enable transit is even more harmful to the environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only in the short term. In our current timeline we destroy our cities to pave new highways. By rebuilding our cities we can reduce sprawl, increase density and make the whole city more effecient while reducing the new land that gets developed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

How many cities are building new highways, not just slightly expanding existing ones?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Corona isn't a perfect example as many places had restricted capacity and hours. There was also a significant precentage of the population minimizing their exposure to the outside world. Yes we should encourage work from home but my point is it won't be reducing car use nearly as much as it seems and even if everyone worked from home we still need alternatives to driving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It is just one example. I think you and I might misunderstand each other a lot.