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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

yay now these kids can get back to combustible nicotine products instead of healthier alternatives that are becoming more dangerous because we failed to regulate the product with factual scientific information

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Let's ban all of it then. Easy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Yes, total prohibition always works with no downside. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The 70's called. They want their incredibly childish drug policy back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not nearly enough, but a step in ghe right direction.

Decriminalisation helps users and lowers abuse, but it doesn't take drug crime away from drug cartels. Which we definitely should do, and which would further help users and lower abuse.

Like compare Nordic governmental alcohol policies to prohibition era USA, you know. In this metaphor Portugal would be somewhat akin, but still a bit short of like a mid-eastern country where alcohol is sort of banned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Drug trafficking is still criminal. It's just acquisition and consumption for personal use that's decriminalized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yes. And it being criminal means it stays in the hands of... drumroll... criminals.

That's why it's better to legalise everything and set up a regulated system. We can accept the fact that adult people can responsibly use even things such as cocaine, methamphetamines, opiates even. If there's an actually regulated system that takes in account the user and suspected abuses, then it's obviously vastly superior to any criminal run enterprise. It's also healthier and funds the government through taxes from the funds which are now channelled directly into large international criminal enterprises.

Like I said. I prefer Alko to Al Pacino.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Idk man is this something that really needs to be available but regulated as opposed to just being banned. I don't think it should be a crime to use or be in possession of but selling products that exist solely to give people an addiction is something I'm broadly in favour of. Fyi there is no healthy amount of nicotine or smoke inhalation. Also we're talking about kids here. Letting adults fuck up their health for vanity is one thing but allowing people to sell an addiction to kids so that we can ensure they're getting the healthy alternative is fucked up. For comparison there is no logical argument for letting kids buy alcohol so that they aren't buying unsafe black market alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If kitty ain't done right it is bad poison and will kill

Bootleg alcohol combined with fishy vape products and or combustible cigarettes are definitely more unhealthy than safe scientifically regulated nicotine vape products and properly done alcohol

Kids are going to be stupid regardless so the topic should be harm reduction and proper information should always be available

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah and in this case harm reduction is telling kids not to take nicotine, teaching them why and increasing the difficulty in acquiring nicotine products. Just because it's futile to stop all nicotine abuse doesn't make efforts to reduce it not worthwhile. Far more kids drink and smoke underage than do illicit drugs precisely because drugs are harder to get a hold of. The overall impact of reducing everyone's risk by a moderate amount as opposed to a small group of people's risk by a large amount is a worthwhile trade off. Yes there is an argument that kids who are doing illicit drugs are endangering themselves so we should legalise and regulate them instead so we know they are doing it "safely." But, far more people would be doing drugs and causing far more damage if they were legal.

Not to bring up the moral argument of letting products that serve no purpose but to get people to be addicted to them in the first place be sold at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because literally anything can become addictive for the right person. So no one is allowed to sell anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about chemical addictions not habitual ones. You can't get addicted to water retard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

You're desperate, you're lashing out. Keep crying loser