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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Why does OP think every delivery is made by car? Often times they are made by bike.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Especially in NYC. Bike delivery has been a thing there long before uberdashhub. Hell, it was a fucking plot point in Spiderman 2 back in 2004:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I think it was TMNT 2 that had a delivery guy on a moped back in like 92.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

In high density urban settings this is absolutely true. 99% of my orders are delivered by bicycle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I’ll add in addition to the “not where I live” replies, I live in pretty textbook white suburban america and I believe I have never seen anything delivered to me or a neighbor or relative by a two-wheeled vehicle of any kind, even motorized. Every single time it is a private 4-seat passenger vehicle or larger.

It is different in other areas of course, like when visiting cities and other countries.

But damn are such vast swaths of suburban and rural america designed so specifically around cars. It would take forever to change even with a progressive culture & government. With the culture and government we have now, I will be stunned if I am not driving my own vehicle for the rest of my life, and I will not be surprised at all if it’s mostly ICE vehicles. I drive a well maintained 13 year old Mazda3 that gets 40mpg, so it’s not ideal versus more efficient and environmentally friendly types of transport, but at least it’s a more efficient use of the existing infrastructure than most americans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see you've never been to the Midwest. Or the south. Or anywhere that isn't Boston/new York/San Francisco.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

I mean the post clearly says $30 in fees in New York city

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The large majority of them are made by cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is, again, depending on the location. Where I'm from, the large majority of food deliveries are done on a moped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

According to doordash which tracks the means of delivery that their drivers use and separates moped and bicycles from cars ny category only 35% are done by moped or bicycle. That is certainly not the vast majority. I don't see why Uber eats would be any different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Again, I said it depends on location. I'm not talking about the US here, and there are no Doordash or Uber Eats where I'm from.

Edit: According to this study (Link), in the UK, about 83% of delivery drivers use mopeds. The UK does have Uber Eats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That just means the place you live has a serious car dependency problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's actually one of the top cities for cycling infrastructure in the US but it's a large geographic metro area. So unless you're in a few neighborhoods, the people likely aren't that close to where the restaurants are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

@bitchkat @stephen01king I'm not the person you're replying to, but that sounds like car dependency to me. I live in one of the top 30 largest metro areas in the world, and I'd say 95% of the population lives in walking distance of a restaurant. Your city is not the way it is because it's big, but because it was built for cars.