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Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would stress that my original point about this polling was

Most voters are against what Israel is doing and especially democrats.

Which is true, as per the most recent poll.

63% of Democrats in November disapproved of Israel's military action, yet, in December, 58% of Democrats still believed that US support for Israel was either appropriate or not enough

But yeah good point. People are fucking stupid.

But if your argument is that this is an easy win for Biden that he's just not taking, I don't think the evidence backs that up, as much as I wish it did.

I think opinion has clearly shifted, as shown by the declining support for Israel's military action. Even the poll I cited is now months old. So it's likely less support funding them now. But yeah we don't know that so kind of a moot point.

But what is true is that people don't like Biden's handling of this issue (shown by polling), that people don't like what Israel is doing (polling) and that supporting genocide is bad (hopefully common sense).

So I don't know. Maybe condition aid on not committing fucking war crimes? I think in any case it's clear voters are not happy about Israel's actions and Biden's support for it obviously makes it more difficult for people to support him. If we insist in sticking with the polling and not necessarily morals, he should at least be clear in his condemnation of what they are doing.