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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Man using a computer gets arrested for using a computer on YouTube. Amazon, seller of disgusting emulation game stealing piracy devices, is completely innocent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Nintendo really gets on my nerves. It's like they want folks to hate Nintendo. They could had gone after Amazon but instead chose to go after the little guy.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Emulators. Are. Legal.

This was settled with the Sony/Bleem debacle. Bleem only provided the software by which one could emulate PSX games but never the ISO files themselves. Those files could only be provided by the end user regardless of how they obtained them. Sony, of course, couldn't give less of a shit and sued them anyways. Judges, however, took Bleem's side on the basis that no copyright infringement had been committed on their behalf. Although Bleem would ultimately win ever lawsuit brought against them, the sheer size of the legal costs led to their closure which makes you wonder if that was Sony's endgame the whole time.

Here's a video by Nerrel about the legality of emulation. It's from 2020 but it is still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

That is a lot of text for something that has no relevance in this case, since it is from Italy and not the US.

Different countries have different laws, and court cases in the US has no effect on Italian law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The legality of ANYTHING, is subject to local jurisdiction, in this case it will be in EU/Italy. Also, while emulators may not be illegal, copying ROMs that are copyrighted to Nintendo of whichever may be the company that published said ROM, are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This specific case is in Italy, though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

And it is not about the emulation by itself but that some of the consoles came with roms.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And I'm my moral code. Make the games available or stfu, we're going to emulate it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't the losers of the lawsuit pay all legal fees?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Not typically--which is a major driver of frivolous lawsuits.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The creator, assuming he didn’t do anything wrong, complied with demands, providing full transcripts of his conversations and chats with gaming handheld manufacturers. The officers also took his phone, promising to return it in a few days. It was returned two months later, on June 15.

Oof. A reminder to not talk to cops, kids.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Never give them evidence against you. They should do the work themselves.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The officials have access to the devices, they consumed the illegal content and then documented their findings. This is considered a review and the officials should be charged under the copyright law.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Almost like illegally obtaining evidence

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a massive overreaction and abuse of century-old laws.

If those devices are so bad, why not forbid selling them in Italy, instead of punishing people who buy them completely legally. Imagine going through all of this because you bought a laptop and posted a review online.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Italy is a joke. Our politicians call us lazy, the rich go on TV crying because they can't find people willing to work for minimal (or below) wage, and then a young person manages to carve themselves a path outside of the 'norm', our state immediately shows up and curb stomps them.

I was talking with a colleague of mine the other day. They work two jobs to make a living. The state taxed them so much, they are paying more for the second job that they are gaining, basically working for free. Tax the poor, let the rich off the hook.

Fuck Italy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The state taxed them so much, they are paying more for the second job that they are gaining, basically working for free

Perhaps I'm misreading, but I don't think this is mathematically possible.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The amount of people who don't understand how taxes work is just ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Our politicians call us lazy, the rich go on TV crying because they can't find people willing to work for minimal (or below) wage

This sounds like Germany. I think it's the norm in many countries by now. We already entered late stage capitalism, at this point it will only become worse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Up to 20k per year you pay 23%, from 20k to 32k you pay 25% and from 32k to 50k per year you pay 35% income tax. If my research is correct, the main job emplayer keeps the tax. So the second employer should keep those 23% as well. As long as your colleague earns less than 50k from both of his jobs, he only has to pay 12% of the second job‘s yearly income as taxes out of his own pocket.

So mathematically it should not be possible to pay to be able to work.

Unless he’s "self employed“ but then he’s allowed that employer to fist him lubeless.

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[–] [email protected] 302 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Retro gaming YouTuber Once Were Nerd has been sued and raided by the Italian government.

That's insane. I know many of these handhelds come with pirated roms but taking it out on a youtube reviewer is outrageous. Why don't they just ban them from being shipped to italy?

[–] [email protected] 183 points 3 days ago

Easier to stomp on one individual than to crack down on the businesses importing this stuff. They're probably also collecting some kind of import duty on them too.

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[–] [email protected] 170 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Didn't Italy elect a far right neo-fascist government?

Hopefully gamers take notes.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Italy has always been a bit odd - I remember a group of scientists were convicted of manslaughter because they didn't predict an earthquake that killed a few hundred people.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude. That happened way back in ...2009!
Whatthefuck is wrong with people? At least it got overturned.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember that! But yeah, it didn't make any sense back then either.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The USGS still claims, as it did in 2009, that earthquakes are unpredictable. At best they've been able to communicate when/where seismic events happen slightly faster than they propagate through the earth.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck fascists. I can’t believe the literal Mussolini’s are making a comeback. Remember, the only good fascist is a dead fascist.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (12 children)

CIA killed all the leftists in Italy to keep Italy out of the USSR. Don’t forget that.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's really an unnecessary escalation

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago

the Italian Copyright Law. This law, which was originally written in 1941

Draconian copyright laws, government overreach, and fascism. Name a more iconic trio.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Shipping the handheld with a SD card loaded with pirated ROMs is asking for trouble, why target the youtuber though?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Because the manufacturer and seller are in China and they want to make an example out of someone?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I’m dictator, any country that does something like this will be carpet bombed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I will vote for you!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they've gotten away with shipping preloaded SD cards for so long. That was a risk waiting to blow up in someone's face, though it obviously isn't fair to be going after some guy rather than the distributors.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Remember when Retro Game Corps almost had his youtube channel shut down by Nintendo for showing Nintendo footage on these handhelds?

Yeah.....he's probably thinking to himself "Welp. Time to retire."

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Seen this going around.

Is anyone familiar with the channel itself? Because based on the article, it sounds like mostly (presumably he) is getting made an example of for reviewing hardware that comes with ROMs on an SD Card? But... a LOT of these "retro consoles" do and outlets just ignore it in favor of their totally legit collection that they don't talk about.

Did OWN actually show what is on the SD Card and emphasize that these units came with it?

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