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The Environmental Protection Agency said on Friday that it would eliminate its scientific research arm and begin firing hundreds of chemists, biologists, toxicologists and other scientists, after denying for months that it intended to do so.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago

May as well rename it to Corporate Profit Protection Agency.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago

Well sure why would environmental scientists need science? Perhaps they'll replace science with prayer or use of runes? Maybe reading tea leaves?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I wish this wasn't relevant as often as it is. It's bizarre how so many Americans want to destroy America, meaning the present-day USA as opposed to some fantasy with the same name. They think they'll be able to replace it with something more to their liking but they're going to see that what they had was actually pretty good (amazingly good!) and that fixing things is a lot harder than breaking them was.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You can thank Putin for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I blame murdoch, he played the long game and was successful. His media empire has been poisoning minds for decades. Putin just took advantage of the idiocracy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

Fuck that, the lost causers who fell for the southern side of the civil war has been marching this path for over a century. Putin was certainly willing to give us a push out the window but we as a country were half hanging out of it already.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And we’re back to cigarette companies publishing articles about smoking being healthy.

Except with chemicals that will forever alter our lives and world.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

I hear the menthol ones are great for that persistent cough of yours

[–] [email protected] 80 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Because the best way to protect the environment is without utilizing science and research. Got it. Thanks glorious leader trump! We appreciate you cutting the fat.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, we didn't have these huge spikes in things like CO2 and methane until we started measuring them, so maybe if we stop looking...let's pass around the paper bags to put our heads into collectively.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

...don't look for trouble, you may find it...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

Nah you protect the government from absolving them of having to find legitimate data that corroborated with the special interests.

Now they can just get the tests and data directly from industry, who will self-report.

What could possibly go wrong. Right, Boeing?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

The science office “is the heart and brain of the E.P.A.,” said Justin Chen, president of A.F.G.E. Council 238. “Without it, we don’t have the means to assess impacts upon human health and the environment. Its destruction will devastate public health in our country.”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago

Thank the idiots who picked Biden over Bernie in 2020. That primary sealed America's fate. The rest is just implementation details.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Or, more accurately, this is what the establishment Democrats were willing to accept to avoid having to stop supporting genocide or to embrace popular progressive policies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The mental gymnastics is astounding.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Democrats threw the 2024 election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Americans threw it. There is plenty of blame to go around, and guess what? That's all anyone is doing now, pointing fingers at each other while the house burns down. Good job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

It seems to me that "Americans" are doing quite a bit to fight back. Can't say the same for the Democrats. THAT is why I want fingers pointed in the right direction. They are still doing it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, but they didn't do it alone. If every last one of them voted for Kamala she'd still have lost. His popular vote would've been even worse but the electoral votes still wouldn't have been close.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

And if everyone voted, his popular vote margin would have been larger. According to the latest analysis, non-voters leaned toward Trump.

When asked how they would have voted, people eligible to vote who did not do so were fairly evenly split in their preferences: 44% said they would have supported Trump, while 40% said they would have backed Harris.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But it might've saved enough House and Senate seats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Well, that's fair. I haven't seen analysis on that score.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

At this point there will be nothing left of the government. It will have to be built from the ground up. Maybe this time we can each the rich and outlaw bribary properly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago

That's sort of the point. But those pulling the strings want to rebuild American government as they envision, not what was working.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Inb4 "why didn't the Dems fix it fast enough?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, why did the Dems help break everything in the name of bipartisanship instead of trying to fix anything?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I see you've progressed from "not fixing it fast enough" to "they broke everything!1!1" The progression is fascinating to watch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

More like, "Why did the Dems run interference for Republicans for 50+ years running?". If you think our problem with Democrats is that they weren't "good enough" then you have fundamentally misunderstood the arguments.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 20 hours ago

Without an effective EPA, ecoterrorism becomes self-defense.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

I doubt china wants an environmental catastrophe any more than any of us. Though I'm sure they like that the US will severely fall back on science. It will let them dominate a lot easier

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think even China would prefer to see the USA not making climate change worse for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Lucky for them they can just sit back and watch for now. Can't burn as many fossil fuels if you kneecap your own economy. They get to poach some of the sacked experts, too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

...we will allow the criminals to investigate themselves...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Turns out the criminals were the poors all along. Should have been recycling them plastic bottles.