Demigodrick

Good point - we don't really have a space for this. We kind of use !home for most things, and i wouldn't moderate a post from an external user if there was a technical issue. So !home is probably the best place. (I'll update the description to reflect)

I will have a think about a support community but home is fine for now :) thanks for checking!

I imagine it truly won't change anything. Some of the major challenges to the UK health sector is social care, in which there is very little focus, with each area responsible for its own arrangements already.

With an aging population, the system just can't cope. Social care is already massively supported by overseas workers coming to the UK, mainly because of the piss poor wages and shit working conditions.

This isn't going to magically create more beds in hospitals, and so the continual downfall of the NHS will continue.

It is obviously more complex than that, but finding the resources to accomodate the challenges of an aging population are a large part of the problem.

Maybe, just mayb,e this would free up the money to invest into these areas, but with another government pushing austerity it just isn't going to happen.

No, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how federation works.

The user is on lemm.ee. When they make a post, they're posting to a local copy of the community, and never directly onto the server. Thats not how federation works and so your points are all totally invalid.

At no point does the user ever make contact themselves with that external server. They never physically touch lemmy.world in their actions, everything they do is on lemm.ee, and so lemm.ee's Terms of Service is the one that applies to the user.

As has already been hashed out multiple times, Lemmy.world's ToS is not relevant here and does not apply to an external user.

This is totally up for debate, and you don't understand it. That's fine, learn from people who do know and take it with some humility.

Oh and if you still don't get why its important and how wrong you are - if you were right, then every single post you make is federated to thousands of different fedi servers. Suddenly, you would be legally in contract with all those thousands of servers and their ToS. Imagine if I put in mine that users have to pay a small sum of currency for every post that they make on my server. In your incorrect definition, you would be liable for that just like lemmy.world have applied their ToS against someone who isn't one of their users.

What lemmy.world should do is update their moderation policies/code of conduct/whatever to specifically say that they will ban you if they suspect you are under 18. Its such an easy fix. This never had to be so wrong in the first place.

It's totally wild how many people who don't understand it are trying to weigh in with their incorrect opinion.

I know it's a very specific point this centres around, being that the ToS doesn't apply to you, but it needs debate and discussion so mistakes like this don't happen in the future.

It absolutely is a signable agreement, you agreed to it when you signed up to lemmy.world 🤦‍♂️ you even have to specifically type that you agree these days, I believe.

And yes, by using the website you agree to it - except (as i and others have to keep pointing out) the user did not use lemmy.worlds website at any point. That isn't how federation works. To suggest it does is just ignorance of the topic.

Yes, we agree that they can ban them for any reason they choose, that's not up for debate, but they cannot apply a clause from their terms of service and specifically cite their terms of service, because it doesn't apply to the remote user.

The largest lemmy instance should be held to account for their actions (as should any lemmy instance). The admin didn't even have to state a reason for the ban, but by saying its the ToS they've invalidated their action. It's not rocket science if you take two minutes to understand how federation and ToS works.

A terms of service is a legal agreement between a user and the host. The user in this case did not access lemmy.world and is not their user, so cannot be bound by the ToS. The same way you cannot be forced into an optional legal agreement that you haven't read or seen.

There is no question that the lemmy.world admins can ban someone from their site if they wish to, but claiming its for a violation of ToS is completely incorrect. The lemmy.world admin in this case decided to arbitrarily ban someone because they say they're under 18, even though there is no legal consideration for lemmy.world here.

Can they do this? Yes. It's their site. But they are incorrect to refer to their ToS for this ban, because the user is not bound by this.

The action taken was outside of any stated lemmy.world policy on moderation.

You're getting it a bit backwards.

Here's the simple answer - can I delete your account or prevent you from accessing your home server? No. Therefore I'm not offering nor providing YOU a service. I am providing a service to people who have signed up to lemmy.zip.

I own and run lemmy.zip. I state that only over 18s can sign up. I do this because lemmy as a software cannot prevent a person from seeing nsfw content if they're under 18, which is a limitation of the software. However admins can turn off nsfw content entirely, such as feddit.uk does. Anything tagged nsfw their users cannot see.

The home instance is liable for their own policies. If they allow under 18s and have nsfw turned on, that's their risk not mine.

A NSFW post on one server can federate to lemmy.zip and then federate to a server hosting a minor (i.e., the minor passively used the lemmy.zip website)

That's not how it works and they're not using lemmy.zip at any point during that anyway. Otherwise your argument would suggest that we are all subject to every websites ToS even if we've never been on that website, which isn't the case.

Had a quick play - great start!

I've tried going back into it and get a utf-8 error - is this common? I can't log back in.

Some thoughts if you do decide to keep working on it :) Could you add comments as another tab next to post and media. I can only see a way to look at subscribed communities. Can you add the local and all tabs too?

If you fancied adding all the mod and admin tools to it too, that would be amazing 😅

Wow - this looks amazing! Gonna try it out ASAP.

Now this is a conspiracy I can get behind.

I thought I was unique, I was the one. It was true love, man. To find out about this betrayal, breaks my heart.

Ooh they've updated the friendica url - new urls to add to the block list!