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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

As I've learned more, the energy from a single atom is not much. They split nitrogen long before uranium but it didn't really matter. You need the chain reaction of uranium.

From Gemini:

The energy released from a single uranium atom splitting is an infinitesimally tiny fraction of what's needed to even warm a mug of water. You would need the simultaneous fission of approximately 1.96 quadrillion (1,960,000,000,000,000) uranium atoms to heat a single mug of water.

*JFC what's up with the downvotes? Because I used Gemini?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank God there was an AI here to tell us something we could just look up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I was interested in whether this was accurate. I got a similar answer, but I know almost nothing about nuclear fission and math is not my strong suit. Here it is anyway:

The heat capacity of water is fairly linear. At normal atmospheric pressure, it's 4,200J/kg°C, which means a 300ml mug of water would take 1,260 joules to raise by 1°C and thus 75,600 joules to raise by 60°C.

Fission of a single atomic nucleus of U-235 releases an average of 3.2e-11 joules (0.000000000032). To release 75,600 joules would presumably take fission of 2.3625e+15 atoms (2,362,500,000,000,000 -- two quadrillion three hundred sixty-two trillion five hundred billion).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You uh definitely at least took a heat transfer class in college or you wouldn't know what to do with all this stuff. Hell, I took one 10 years ago, and I barely know what to do with this information anymore. Kudos to you for doing the napkin math

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, just read into it a little and then forgot it afterwards! The first link -- the old Reddit thread -- was quite helpful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Considering it was 250 ml by 60 C, looks bang on.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not downvoting you, but I think a lot of people, including me, would read "from Gemini" (or any AI) as "you can't trust this information".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For me, whenever anyone includes AI generated crap in their comment, I think three things:

  1. Great, I now need to fact check this because you can't trust AI
  2. If I wanted AI generated crap, I'd go get it myself
  3. The commenter couldn't even* be bothered to actually author their comment, this is the lowest of low effort content, and is definitionally deserving of a downvote
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

ChatGPT will straight up hallucinate numbers (or any information). Gemini is much more accurate. Haven't tried others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

They all do it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You would need the simultaneous fission of approximately 1.96 quadrillion (1,960,000,000,000,000) uranium atoms to heat a single mug of water.

heat by how much? AI as useful as ever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just cut that bit out. 20 C to 80 C.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't that common knowledge? I don't think that anyone seriously believes that splitting a single atom causes an explosion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

altr

I mean I'm not saying that you're an expert, but my us highschool education regarding nuclear fission was pretty handwavy, and won't come up again in most careers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd wager loads of people with no scientific knowledge do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd wager they don't even know what you mean by "splitting an atom" and wouldn't give a rat's ass whether it released any energy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, I amanium!