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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Your assumption is yours to make, I was being deliberately ambiguous. My point was "men like murdering" sounds like a fact, but isn't. Just as "women lie" sounds like a fact, but isn't.

the difference is your generalization isn't based in statistical fact.

The OP isn't, either. There is no difference. Both are damaging overgeneralizations. Even though more women (because its easier) do lie (again, ambiguous. Can be about how their food tasted) way more often than men do murder, both are damaging overgeneralizations. One more than the other.

Also:

it's statistically common enough

You are referencing statistics. For the second time. Provide them.

you are harming women by doing this.

No, you just feel like that. Me arguing that I don't want to be called a murderer because of my penis is not a downplay of rape. You did that part all on your own.

it does not harm men to point out what a significant enough amount of them to be dangerous to women at large are doing.

That's a lie. Also, how does that fit in with me harming women by pointing something out? We are talking about the sentence "men like murder", which is rightfully being under fire. You could say this is a shitpost, but your comment is not.

you are not personally affected by women saying that men are violent or murderers

Lie. Here you also try to justify the post as the truth. Just for future reference.

but women are personally affected by your exaggerated claims of dishonesty

How? And how am I not affected by you denying my experience?

violence that they are statistically far more likely to experience.

Are you talking about rape or murder? If you talk about murder, like the OP, that's again a lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You, in particular, are not being called a murderer, because the OP clearly says "men" and not "all men." You are however contributing to the problem by being dismissive and making a discussion about women's safety about you, which is why women should be afraid of you since you are clearly self-serving and have no empathy for and understanding of their plight.

Please explain to me how women talking about violence from men affects you personally. I can tell you how exaggerating your claim is harmful toward women, since because of the disproportionate violence and sexual abuse they face from men, they often find themselves having to speak on their experiences, and often aren't believed thanks to unfounded biases like yours.

The difference is that your claim is grossly exaggerated to appear equal to the OP's claim, which actually has statistic validity. The OP's only mistake is specifying murder, which isn't the only threat of violence at the hands of men a woman would potentially (and has a good chance of having to) face walking alone at night, but anyone who isn't 12 should be able to understand the use of hyperbole in a motherfucking shitpost. The intention is clear. it is not safe for women because of violence from men.

Here are the statistics: https://rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem, https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-42/table-42.xls, https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gender/

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