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Tesla’s registrations in France dropped 63% in January, their lowest since August 2022, far outpacing the broader total EV sales' 0.5% decline.

Tesla registrations across EU countries fell 13% last year, with Germany accounting for much of the decline.

Sales in Germany, Tesla’s biggest European market, also fell 41% last year due to an aging lineup, competition, and subsidy cuts.

CEO Elon Musk’s political involvement, including support for Germany’s far-right party, may be affecting demand.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (25 children)

The EU has so many much better EV makers it is crazy. Siemens, Altsom, CAF or Talgo are superior in every way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Give me a break.

Hate on Musk all you're pleased, I'll join you. But I can't deny how much better tesla was vs every other brand I've test driven (Ford, Kia, Polestar mg etc). Their software is unmatched unfortunately. Until we get another brand do this shit right, tesla will be the top car. EV is only as good as its software. Most other brands are half a decade behind.

Again, if you have experience and disagree? I'm happy to discuss! I'd love to hear about your experience with brands I haven't tested. But 90% of comments here likely never driven Tesla and are just spewing bullshit because they dislike Musk. It's fine not to buy a car because of it, but trying to mental gymnastics into the car being bad makes people look like complete idiots.

I'm sure there will be smart asses here talking about quality control or software recalls, so what? Sell so many of anything and you'll have bad apples. You think other brands haven't got those?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tesla cars are a mixed bag (for Europeans, at least).

The software is good (although it got worse, many things now require multiple touches, which is really bad when driving), and it is better than every other brand I know.

But a lot of other aspects are suboptimal. E.g. the insulation is sub-par, resulting in more noise. The assistance systems are really bad, the car tried to kill me multiple times on the Autobahn. The cameras are bad when it's dark outside, often I have to guess what I see in the rear camera when parking. The placement of the rear camera leads to dirt on it, I have to clean it every day to be able to use it. Etc, pp.

Nothing is so bad that I would advise against a Tesla, but these are many small paper cuts I was not used to in other brands.

That said: don't buy a Tesla. Musk is a Nazi. Don't support Nazis, punch them.

Edit: didn't notice the train joke. Nice, you got me ;-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That said: don’t buy a Tesla. Musk is a Nazi. Don’t support Nazis, punch them.

Should I buy a car from the manufacturer that was founded by Adolf Hitler instead?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

With all the good arguments against VW you had to pick the dumbest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Okay, give me the good arguments against VW. I don't know of any, actually, and I'm genuinely shopping here.

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