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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 122 points 1 month ago (12 children)

"We hate that our CEO keeps getting called out and slammed by our followers so we're gonna stick our fingers in our ears"

Also good time to remind everyone Tuta exists :) https://tuta.com/

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've been using Tuta Mail for a few years now. No complaints. Most of the features you would expect. Lack of IMAP support is kinda disappointing but survivable. Their email security is very strong though — they encrypt every part of your email, including subject (some providers only encrypt the body). They're also rolling out post-quantum encryption of email data at rest, which tickles my crypto nerd side.

They've still a loong way to go to match Proton's product suite though, as they only offer Email, Contacts and Calendar for now. They're working on Drive storage next, which is the main reason I currently use Proton.

[–] loudwhisper@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tuta is great, I will start from that. But they encrypt the subject line, in addition to the body afaik. It is technically impossible to encrypt "every part of the email" because that would break delivery (e.g., metadata such as recipient or timestamps).

This also has the cost of a nonstandard protocol (not plain PGP), with all that implies in terms of compatibility, maintenance needs etc.

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

That's a fair point about the portability of their protocol. And yeah, you're right that they don't encrypt everything. I'd meant to say "they encrypt everything you can encrypt without making the email undeliverable" but my fingers decided to type something else.

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