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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Could just say:

If you accept either privacy of consciousness or phenomenal transparency then philosophical zombies must be conceivable and therefore physicalism is wrong and you can’t engineer consciousness by mimicking brain states.

Edit:

I guess I should've expected this, but I'm glad to see multiple people wanted to dive deep into this!

I don't have the expertise or time to truly do it justice myself, so if you want to go deep on this topic I'm going to recommend my favorite communicator on non-materialist (but also non-religious) takes on consciousness, Emerson Green:

But I'm trying to give a tl;dl to the first few replies at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Why does privacy of consciousness mean one can't engineer consciousness by mimicking states of the organ that probably has something to do with it?

What does phenomenal transparency mean?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Plus, privacy of consciousness may just be a technological hurdle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

We may be able to tell with great confidence what you're thinking or feeling but not how it feels to you. There's a subjective, 1st person experience. Something that it's like to be you which is different from me. I can't tell what it's like to be someone else, or be another animal, or if it means anything to be a rock.

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