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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Mozilla's only winning move at this point is to delete their terms of service, IMO. I have yet to see a substantial example of an open-source product that's pushed a license remotely like this onto its users.

And considering how the OSI has corrupted its own definition of "open-source" already, I don't want to see this go down a slippery slope. Apps like Betterbird, which ship some components from Firefox, are already saying "the related Mozilla terms may apply."

How's the article frame this though?

The revised TOU now explicitly state that Mozilla requires certain rights to operate Firefox, including processing user data as outlined in the Firefox Privacy Notice.

Not great.

It emphasizes that Mozilla does not gain ownership of user content...

Okay so far...

...only a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to fulfill user requests.

And we're back in the weeds. "Non-exclusive" means it doesn't just belong to them. Who else does it belong to? Ditto for worldwide: Firefox sits on my computer in one place, not everywhere in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Betterbird is giving that notice, I wonder if this means that all forks of Firefox will also be affected in that same way.

Total pricks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The best case scenario is they are simply being too cautious, and they can eventually remove that disclaimer.

Otherwise... I don't know. I assumed Thunderbird and friends used Gecko, but I never thought a component in Firefox could be put in a different product and cause people to be subject to a Mozilla license.

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