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Trump doesn't care, but on the other hand I really don't think he is a Russian asset.
Russia is playing their negotiating well. They have projected strength and total commitment to their claimed goals. They were able to do it, because of the diplomatic blunders by the Trump administration. Until now US have not said anything about Russian concessions. They were mentioned, but nothing specific.
On the other side, the Ukrainians will never accept anything close to what the Russians want. Even if America tries to force the conditions on them, they will still have some support from Europe.
Trump wants this. I mean, let's get serious, if he does it, he could legitimately expect the Nobel prize. I'm not even joking, if he does, he would be an idiot savant of peacemaking. It's highly unlikely though, but what is his way out?
Trump does not have the cards to force a peace deal, or the skills to negotiate one. Ukraine and Putin are simply too far apart to meet in the middle.
Only a cuck would concede anything to Putin, and Trump is king cuck.
Thats completely naive. Reality doesn't work like memes. People are dying, lives are being destroyed.
Ukraine doesn't have much a choice because they're losing the war.
Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you've been so propagandized to believe that it's impossible for Ukraine to lose.
The war is still being fought. No one has won.
Sigh.
I'm sorry, but saying that everyone else who doesn't agree with you is propagandized is at least lazy if not childish and trolling behavior.
Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn't achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won't be able to keep it up.
There is no sense to give to Russia concessions, the Russians cannot take by force. Usually it's the other way around.
You != Everyone else
Yeah, you've been propagandized hard.
No, you have been propagandized harder! 🙄
Did you also think Ukraine was going to retake Crimea?
Do you have putins picture over your need?
See, both of us can play this dumb game.
What dumb game? Where I point out how you fell for propaganda before and then you get mad and say I love putin or something?
This just further proves my point about you being propagandized.
🤣
Bye.
Hope you can learn from this when it's all said and done.
There are concensions and then there's functionally disarming so you can be attacked even more easily in 5 years.
What do you mean "more easily attacked"?
Ukraine losing the war means it's no longer a sovereign state.
Definitely not skills. But both sides in the war want to have a strong start to the negotiation. Ukraine might give up Crimea officially for NATO membership. Russia will do anything that will look like they won.
NATO membership is off the table.
Its the start of the negotiation, everyone will take positions, but might change them. I don't think Nato is really an option, but they might avoid this and make individual 2 party agreements between Ukraine and Nato countries that would serve as a sort of replacement for actually admitting Ukraine to Nato.
I don’t see Russia accepting that.
Without giving Ukrainians real safety guarantees, they will never stop fighting. Russia knows that. If they don't accept safety guarantees they are saying, they want to war more.
They will never stop fighting? Ukraine can’t win a war of attrition against Russia.
We can already see that is not the case, if the west continues to support it.
Even with the West’s support Ukraine has been losing ground. Imagine without the US support…
With limited support, while Russia has been losing an unsustainable amount of manpower to occupy less that 1% of the territory in a year. Losing US support will be really bad, but right now the frontlines have been fortified and Ukraine has built up a lot of weapons industry to produce it's own weapons. I'm not saying it's going to be easy without US support (even though we cannot say 100% that is really going to happen), what I'm saying is that the situation is way way way more nuanced and complicated than you are claiming.
It’s really not more complicated than I claim, Ukraine also suffered a great number of casualties and has far fewer troops than Russia.
Ukraine can indeed produce some of its own weapons but the country is entirely reliant on external support for its survival. The Americans are growing tired of sending weapons and money. Who knows how long the Europeans will continue supporting Ukraine.
I don't think you can claim that a few of you 3 word sentences describe the entirety of the war. That's not serious.
The Americans are not growing tired of sending weapons. Not if you look at the polls. Only the current administration has certain ideas about stopping support, but it's not clear if they actually will, because of three internal political situation and diplomatic standing of US in the world. European support is even growing.
Polls show Americans do not wish to keep providing support to Ukraine.
Nobody wants to provide support indefinitely. But that doesn't mean anyone will stop providing it until it is needed.
It means the support will dwindle away.
Thats an opinion, it has no value.
As much as yours…
Which one is my opinion? That support will not end when Russia wants it? Europe and America will look foolish and weak if they do that. I don't think they can allow this to happen. Yes, that's my opinion.
Don’t be disingenuous, it was never about the support stopping when Russia wants it.
It’s about whether the support provided by the West will dwindle away or not.
The U.S. will have no problem to dramatically reduce support for Ukraine. European countries won’t make up the difference.
Thats not disingenuous. Theres is nothing Russia wants more. There is no doubt that the optics of this would be that USA and Europe have kneeled before Russia.
The only part of America that wants to dramatically reduce support is MAGA. They might succeed, but not without consequences.
The majority of Americans do not want to send more money and weapons to Ukraine. That has nothing to do with what Russia wants or does not want.
Show me. I found this: https://news.gallup.com/poll/658193/support-greater-role-ukraine-climbs-high.aspx
The optics of the situation is that America is kneeling before Rusia.
America is not kneeling before Russia, America is doing what is best for America first.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/25/wide-partisan-divisions-remain-in-americans-views-of-the-war-in-ukraine/
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/14/americans-views-of-the-war-in-ukraine-continue-to-differ-by-party/
Your links show hardly any change.
America is kneeling. That's what people see.
They show the majority of Americans do not want to provide more money and arms to Ukraine. Americans really don’t care what people see.
Check your numbers again. They show that the majority want to either help the same or help more.
The majority of Americans do not want to provide more money and arms to Ukraine. Only a fraction of the population want to provide more arms and money to Ukraine.
Only 30% want to reduce help. Reduce, not even stop. Only 30%.
Nope, the survey is about the help given so far, not about the future. 30% think too much help has been given.
Read it again, that's not what the survey says. The 23% want the support to stay at the current level.
I'm convinced Trump is chasing the nobel peace prize because Obama has one and he's still butt hurt over it.
I disagree. Ukraine is currently getting routed and they will announce their surrender this year if the US continues to withhold support.
The thing about war is that each death makes it harder to fight back. That results in more deaths, which makes it even harder, and hopefully you get the idea if you're not a useful idiot (sorry this last part needs to be said, but there's a lot of useful idiots running around these days.)
A country can be losing but in an existential conflict seem to rarely outright surrender. Ukraines position, while dire, is far stronger than the talibans after the US invasion of Iraq. 20 years later, they were still fighting and ultimately prevailed.
In my mind, this Inevitably is in ukraines future if allies don't continue to materially support Ukraine - either way the Russian occupation ultimately fails, the question is does Ukraine defend itself and remain a sovereign nation or do they fall and an insurgency later force it's reinstatement.
The difference is Iraqi did not want to be under US occupation where large parts of Crimea and the Eastern regions do want to be independent / under Russian influence.
It is not about Trumps skills. My guess is that there might have been a deal, if Trump didn't get in the way of his advisors by posting on social media and going off script in interviews