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Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump "doesn't have anything to do with that".

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (31 children)

I still don't see them as Trump's actual plan.

I'm like one of three conservatives here, do you really expect a response?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (15 children)

i was hoping for a response yes. and really hoping for an actual intellectual as well.

so what makes you think it isn't trumps plan? even though you can follow the progress online of p2025 and trump is checking off each objective.

what do you see p2025 as? and do you think it will make america "awesome again"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I see Trump's plan as Trump's plan. P25 holds some similarities, some things are just that obvious, like illegal immigrants should be deported, but it's not Trump's plan. P2025 is it's own thing, some wishlist created by some think tank that got picked up by the news because it's so stereotypical.

I think that Trump's plan is an attempt to put America back on the right track economically.

Protective tariffs for instance, are a pretty standard way of protecting domestic industry. It's expensive to comply with OSHA and labor laws, it's a lot cheaper to make stuff in China and ship it over here. Tariffs make it so that it's no longer cheaper. Bernie Sanders agrees, even if can't directly agree with Trump. https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-tariffs/

Does p25 have anything on tariffs? No, they don't.

P25 does have stuff on things like racial discrimination, which no politician in their right mind would support.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tariffs are one way to protect domestic industry.

They are completely useless when that industry does not exist already. When an industry doesn't exist and you want to build it, you need subsidies, not tariffs.

Do you believe the US has sufficient industry to protect? Or that we should instead be focused on growing more?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes I do. We have chip fabs, car factories, steel mills, all sorts of things. But they've been hurt by the likes of China for a very long time.

Did you know Gary Indiana used to have a Steel Mill? And it was when it closed that Gary went to shit?

And we can do both. We already are subsidizing lots of things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

We are not subsidizing recreating those factories that are gone. Which is a shame.

What you're saying makes sense if we were putting tariffs an those specific industries that we have factories for, but not other industries. Are we doing that?

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