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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

If I can learn it anyone can. I am straight up stupid. Full disclosure though: while I can write it pretty well (with a phone or pc, no fucking way I can do it by hand) my speech is mixed. When I talk to Japanese people they say “wow! Your Japanese is so good!” Which means it’s not very good hahah

Mandarin is way harder because it’s alllll kanji and the speaking in tones stuff is so much more nuanced

I’m pretty sure it’s ranked hard because you have to learn an alternative alphabet. But this is not really that tough. You can learn hiragana fairly quickly. Katakana is not nearly as necessary as you might think. Then learning kanji does admittedly take forever but often you’ll see things are either written in hiragana, only use the most basic of kanji, or if they use fancy kanji they have the hiragana next to it anyway (like a phonetic spelling)

The grammar is a little challenging:

Subject verb object - I sushi eat instead of I eat sushi

The subject gets dropped and implied; the language is heavily contextual. I eat it - 食べます (tabemasu) - i (implied) eat it (implied). This is why llm and machine language translation stinks at Japanese, because it can’t really know context from a single line (though it’s improving, chatgpt got that right though deepl said “I’ll eat”, which isn’t wrong, strictly and did give both I’ll eat it and I’ll have some as alternatives)

Then there’s particles like は wa and が ga which mark the subject and topic, respectively. English doesn’t really have an equivalent.

But this isn’t harder as much as it’s nuance imo. The writing system and alphabet is harder, objectively. There’s 46 hiragana and over 100 if you include the additional forms (which is misleading a bit) then basically the same number of katakana, then about 2,000 kanji in use. That’s a lot to learn but it’s basically an extension of learning vocab

Now should you learn Japanese? That’s a tough one. Stagnant economy, falling birth rate year after year, etc. but your goals are your own and don’t have to be practical

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Now should you learn Japanese?

Me? Yes, probably. I've been promising my wife I'd do it for like... almost 3 years? 🤦

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Today is the day, here is your sign

Anki and tae Kim

Don’t fuck with Duolingo, waste of money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I like doulingo for hiragana/katakana.

But after that, anki is my god, my king, my one and only. (Few thousand words in.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh interesting that’s one of my least favorite parts of duolingo

There’s a free app called scripts I’ve been using to learn stroke order. It’s just okay but they smash them at you with much more repetition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm. I'm aiming to learn around 4000 words before I start working on writing kanji. Another

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