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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Our two parties are engrained at this point, for better or worse, and will not change until we change our First Past the Post voting system. Everyone that's disenfranchised with the Democratic party in this thread right now represents the owl voters in this video - watch it please, it's very clear at explaining why what you are suggesting will absolutely NOT WORK and will allow the GOP to win in perpetuity.

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I’ve seen that video. Everyone’s seen that video.

And if my only option is to keep voting for the party that has failed so completely a fascist is in office then we are well and truly fucked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, if you truly understood that video, then you would know that by voting independent you're fracturing the vote away from the one-of-two major parties, which means victory for the bad guys. It explains this.

Look, I 100% agree with you that what we have is absolute shit. You're preaching to the choir. But the bad guys aren't going to fracture their vote. They're just not.

The system is the issue, and what we have to work with is by design. If you vote for anything but one of the two parties in power, you're just giving the worst of the two the actual win.

The ONLY way to fix this is to fix the system. Period. End of discussion. That's the cold hard truth.

Why do you think so many Russian trolls tried to push Bernie so hard back in 2016? Because they actually understand that video - you can't do SHIT as an independent running in the system unless EVERYONE does it.

You're incredibly passionate about our plight - so am I. Even if we don't agree on everything, we're in a small subset of people that are INVOLVED and INFORMED. The general populace is fairly dumb as shit. Their knowledge goes about an inch deep. Unless you can guarantee that EVERYONE is going to switch from Dem to independent, your suggestion is literally doomed to fail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Nope, still disagree. Don’t have time or inclination to explain why, though.

Goodbye.