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What was the original game actually shown to her that led to that video clip? Who chose the game, etc?
Meming this is totally justified though. You could easily say that about any and all entertainment media formats without even looking very hard for examples. Its just without knowing the original context I can't help but feel the woman got the short end of the stick with whatever show that was from.
GTAV, a scene at the Vanilla Unicorn strip club specifically
It's... A really fucking stupid thing to bitch about specifically in that game, honestly. Of course a strip club objectifies women, and of course a game about criminality and the seedy underworld will have one
John Wick is a movie about criminality and the seedy underworld, and there's no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn't invited to participate in the objectification, the audience is invited to hate the antagonist for objectifying women and wish for justice.
There's nothing wrong with a game about robbing banks, because most people don't rob banks, and a video game isn't going to give them ideas. But a video game where you pretend to be a misogynist can teach dangerous habits, because that behaviour is easy to bring out of the game.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the people sending death threats to Anita Sarkeesian for saying games should objectify women less, are the people who went on to storm the capital to try and install a fascist dictator.
You're smart enough to understand that games depicting banks robbery won't lead to an increase in real life bank robbery, but somehow you're convinced a game with a strip club can teach dangerous habits? I usually run all red lights when I play GTA, how do you think that has affected my real life driving? I played an evil karma playthrough in fallout3, am i a psychotic person in real life? Do you have a complete list of behaviors people have a hard time separating from video games?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25681166
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28408891
We have a correlation
Correlation is not causation.
Or did you fail your very first science class?
You're right, it could be the other way around. Maybe sexist video games don't cause sexism. Maybe they attract sexist men instead. Like the woman in the meme is saying.
You gamergate people are so easy to bait into disagreeing with yourselves
You're right.
I'll just go back to living the male fantasy of petting my dog on my 3ds.
There's lots of great indie games still coming out that don't have sexism in them. Try out Dome Keeper, they just had a big mod jam. Dome Keeper doesn't have gender, it only has minerals and monsters.
Ah, surveys, which classify as observational, cross-sectional studies: pretty low on the hierarchy of evidence, yes?
Now show us studies that apply the same methods on the relationship with belief & attitudes toward bank robberies, risky driving, or dark personality traits as mentioned before. Applying the same methods on those questions would inform us whether such studies put them all on "the same level" as sexism or "objectification of women" (which someone before claimed would be funny), and whether we can put much stock in conclusions drawn from these methods.
It's also questionable whether answers to survey questions imply much beyond state of mind that has real-life consequences. Unless there's clear evidence of that, it's a slippery slope.
It's funny how this argument puts sexism and the objectification of women, unfortunately very common and normalized types of behavior, on the same level with behavior that's psychotic and fucking lunatic.