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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Well you clearly don’t have kids, and if you do, you sound like the shitty parent lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

What an odd, incorrect assumption. Kids need to be able to socialize. This isn't the 1980s anymore, you can't just go to a mall, there are very few physical third spaces anymore, literally none in some locations.

For a lot of kids, those third spaces are via phone/online. I can absolutely understand wanting to limit exposure to bad influences of phones, that IS good parenting, but you need to offer alternatives, or managed use, or something, or you're socially isolating your kid. Worst case scenario, you're getting them bullied- kids can be cruel (though from what I've seen, not as much as they used to be, thankfully).

The person literally said in another comment:

Yes, it’s part of set them up to succeed not fail. And another part of it is I want them to have a clean break from the outside world, from friendship drama or clinginess, from school stuff, etc.

Now, I'm assuming this is partially a situation of english not being the first language, from some of the grammar, but wanting to have their kids be 'cleanly' broken away from friendships, school stuff, and the very outside world sounds.... look, I'm going to be frank here, their literal goal seems to be socially stunting their kid via helicoptering.

Kids need to learn who they are. You're not trying to raise someone to be a child, you're trying to raise someone to be a healthy, functioning adult, and part of that means going through friendships, even friendship drama, exploring the outside world, etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

One of the malls near me recently made it against the rules to be there if you're under 18 without supervision of someone over 21, with the wristband enforcement and everything. It's literally impossible to socialize outside anymore because everyone hated teenagers and wanted to get them off their lawn. And now they're all inside because that's the only place left for them and now they still aren't happy. We need better places online and offline for kids and teens to socialize because this is getting ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, they've done that at the malls near me as well. Surprise surprise, 3 of them have closed down and the fourth is a ghost town.

Basically every store in the place is some kind of crystals-and-juju or retirement-scam place, along with somehow a ton of phone case booths?

When I was a kid (might be dating myself here) there was music shops, arcades, bookstores, food, all kinds of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I can't remember enjoying going to the mall either and I guess I assumed that was because I wasn't into clothes because gender dysphoria but I suppose there were actually reasons people liked to go to the mall. My experience growing up in Suburbia was that it was completely socially dead

Basically adults hated teenagers and kids so they banned them from everywhere and then they still want happy and now they're angry at kids staying inside all day because they destroyed outside. Destroy the possibility of having a normal social life and then go after the consolation prize too just despite them. You know the same assholes that want to take away kids phones aren't going to consent to any kind of urban planning changes to make it easier for them to have offline friends

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