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Italian "pizza" sucks.
Modern pizza originates in the US, so I don't know why the fuck anyone would go to Italy and expect it to be better.
To be fair, it was Italian immigrants who invented what we know as pizza today, but Chinese immigrants also brought Chinese food to America as well—and if you go to China expecting the same kind of food there, prepare to be disappointed (especially if you don't live in an area with a large Asian population. I do so I can assure you that authentic Chinese is completely different. Same for pizza.)
Edit: Why are you booing me? I'm right.
What the fuck are you talking about???
I've never been to Italy myself so I'm staying out of this argument, but I've heard from other Estonians that if you go to Italy and order pizza there, you might be sorely disappointed. Naturally there are others who say you can only get real pizza in Italy.
I reckon people like different styles and a lot of people like styles that Italians aren't willing to make
Also there's another effect: If you go to Venice for example and order Spaghetti Carbonara there, you will get the inauthentic version tourists are used to, because the restaurant is going to try to appeal to the tourists preferences. Now you have Italian chefs making an inauthentic version of their original dish, which probably won't be as good as the actual inauthentic version. (hope that makes sense lol)
I'll admit that I went on a bit of an ADHD-fueled rant on the end, but I thought I was reasonably clear.
Tell me what part of my comment you don't understand, and I'll be happy to explain it to you.
Mostly just the part where you claim that "modern" pizza was invented in the US. Not a different food, not a variation with its own history - just straight up "modern" pizza. That's a very sad and mildly insulting way to describe a global hit with Italian roots. Mass production alone doesn't give any country the right to claim to have invented a food.
I can understand the frustration of tourists when they expect something different from the authentic version of a dish, even if that's pretty unlikely with a dish that has so many different styles all over the world, but you make it sound like pizza, as a whole, is a US invention and Italy serves some antiquated precursor... Also, Italy serves many different kinds of pizza. No one should feel forced to go to the most traditional restaurant in Naples and order a pizza margherita, even though most people will probably like it.
Read Monarch's comment below yours. I was going to try to explain myself, but they said exactly what I was thinking, except more eloquently.