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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (36 children)

Even if we build cheap apartments for the homeless and fully fund it with tax payer money it actually saves tax payer money and gets the homeless out of the already over stressed healthcare system.

Most homeless are in and out of the hospital for easily preventable diagnosis that is a direct result of living on the street. This would free up a bed in the ED, free up a bed in acute care if admitted, and free up urgent care and other EMT resources.

This has been studied for YEARS. We know the answer to directly solving this without even trying to fix the other systemic issues at play here.

However, having a homeless population is good for capitalism. It's an area where an employer can point to and say, "If you don't work for pennies on the dollar, you'll end up there."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (31 children)

One little problem you aren't accounting for.

Give houses to newcomers for not being self sufficient, then you'll be attracting even more newcomers. The cycle continues.

Now, with 2nd generation immigrants, this is a good investment. Especially in aging countries such as mine.

But yeah you're not taking in future expenses into account with your idea there.

The current amount of homeless, are there to scarecrow the potential amount of homeless away.

It's more sane, as a society, to reduce this to refugees only.

Giving economic immigrants a free house.. that's just insane

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nobody was talking about immigrants before you did. Not sure what your point is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk how it's in your country but in my country the homeless are illegal immigrants

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sad that people want to go to your country, even if they will be homeless. Sad they find no compassion there.
In my country, the immigrants are very slightly less likely to be homeless. Little compassion here either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The rules are simple. If you want to be in Belgium, be self sufficient until you have nationality. Unless refugee, then you get social housing.

Most of our immigrants come through family reunification. Their family member can only get them here if he or she has enough income and housing.

They sign a paper to say that the government can deduct money from the family member's account if the immigrant requires help from our social services for income.

Then when the immigrant requests income from the state, the residence card is lost.

If that person does not leave the country, will become an illegal immigrant. Then will likely become homeless.

The rules are there to diminish the burden on the state.

Switzerland has 30% immigrants, Singapore is all about immigrants, Dubai as well. I don't think these places have any compassion. High cost of living. If not self sufficient, then they prefer the spot to be taken by an immigrant that will be self sufficient.

It's selfish, but important in order to keep our country from going into a crisis.

Legal immigration is easy. My wife went to Jakarta. Got EU tourist visa. We went to city hall. I presented proof of housing, payslips of past few months, national health insurance.

We got married. She got orange card, could start working. Can't find a job.

Then because I still have my job, my wife gets F card after 6 months.

She did 2 classes to learn Dutch. Some social integration class. Found a job that is 2/3rd subsidised by government.

All legal. It's easy. To become an illegal immigrant, you need to do some heavy lifting.

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