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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (36 children)

Yes, I will cycle 15 miles (one-way) to the nearest produce section.

I'm all for bikes in sufficiently urban areas, but they are never going to be reasonable for 90% of America (by land mass, not population).

We need passenger train service (or other mass transit) that can cover lower density areas and still be reliable. (There's active train tracks within 100m of both my driveway and the produce section, so for me a passenger train would be ideal.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

15 mile with an electric bike and good infrastructure that let you go fast is doable. And electric bike is already so much better than a car because it weight much less and as such consume much less. But I agree overall it does not replace a train because people won't cycle when it rains.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

That's still almost an hour each way with the US class 1 ebike limit of 20mph. Not really doable for me or most people purely from a time usage stand point, not to mention 2 hours in the weather if it's poor.

An electric motorcycle would be a lot more interesting to me, because it's not held up by the stupid US ebike laws with such low speed limits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For what it’s worth, US limit is only 20mph with full motor. Class 3 is allowed, with 28mph (45kph, actually) when using pedal assist. I threw a larger chainring on my eBike to make maintaining 28mph easier and I just pedal everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

State-bound, but this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Most bike paths are class 1 at least where I am, I don't think I'm going to pedal faster than 20 especially with a load of groceries.

Even 28mph isn't that fast when the roads I take to the store on a motorcycle are 45-60mph limits.

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