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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I've always wondered, is this illegal? Like obviously it is if they've already been subpoenaed or something.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Nah it's illegal to deliberately destroy data to impede investigations. You don't need to have an open investigation for that to be the case.

It remains legal to get rid of old files to free up space or if you genuinely believe they aren't necessary, though, so you need to prove intent.

If there's a subpeona or something, their destruction is itself a crime, but under this law, its the intent to defraud the courts that's illegal, and that intent is always illegal.

The law exists specifically for this situation. Purging important business documents preemptively is clearly not OK.

Citation: https://legalclarity.org/18-u-s-c-1519-destruction-alteration-or-falsification-of-records/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you happen to know when the last time was that a rich company was prosecuted for this?

It seems a lot like the perjury laws: there to scare poor people into telling the truth because of almost non-existant prosecution of it.

And if it is a fine and not jail time (white collar crimes are almost never jail time) the fine would have to be much larger than the penalties they would not have to pay because of the crime, otherwise it is simply a net win for the company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Companies don't get jail time.

Sure, technically an individual could, but generally the actual destruction is an employee doing what they're told to do. They're somewhat complicit but the real problem is the c-suite people.

I unfortunately don't know when this last happened or any specific details on what the penalty would be, but I feel fairly confident that this law falls under the "cost of doing business" part of illegal corporate activity. I wish it didn't.

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