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Based on the article text, it’s only citing things like how long you play. I thought most games collected telemetry like this?
Don’t get me wrong, if it was scanning your drive to sell data to harvesters, I’d be extremely unnerved. And you should definitely be able to turn this off. But I feel like even Valve has recorded things like “60% of players quit after losing to this boss”
A commonplace travesty is still a travesty and metadata is still data. If my hairdresser asked me "Hey, in addition to me cutting your hair and you giving me money I'd also like you to constantly keep me updated on your sleep schedule, your vacation plans, marital status changes and the myriad of other things that can be directly gleaned from aggregate timeline data - all the other hairdressers have started doing it as well!", I'd likely look at them incredulously for a few seconds while silently imagining stabbing them with their own scissors.
Calling it "telemetry" has somehow normalized it over the past decades, I suppose? I just don't understand how anyone could ever accept this as normal.
That's the thing, though. I respect the analogy, but the equivalent here would be if the game was also checking your drive for other games, for financial apps, scanning your browser's cookies to see which sites you visit, etc.
If, while playing a singleplayer game, they're recording what actions you take within that singleplayer game, it's understandable some people wouldn't even want that - but I also don't see that as nearly so invasive as other data travesties. Worse, highlighting it here feels like a "cry wolf" situation where you'd desensitize people to the most harmful privacy breaches.
Again, I don't doubt that you do not see it as an incredibly invasive thing. I'm lamenting that you (and many) don't.
You're doing something on your computer. Locally. In your own time. With a thing that is - ostensibly - yours. Why is it even remotely acceptable that some corporate entity is watching you over your shoulder while you do it? I'm running out of words to express how nuts this seems to me.