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Alt Text: an image of Agent Smith from The Matrix with the following text superimposed, "1999 was described as being the peak of human civilization in 'The Matrix' and I laughed because that obviously wouldn't age well and then the next 25 years happened and I realized that yeah maybe the machines had a point."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

When I heard that line I was like "Yeah, sure. We'll never have AI in my lifespan" and you know what? I was right.

Unless you just died or are about to, you can't really confidently make that statement.

There's no technical reason to think we won't in the next ~20-50 years. We may not, and there may be a technical reason why we can't, but the previous big technical hurdles were the amount of compute needed and that computers couldn't handle fuzzy pattern matching, but modern AI has effectively found a way of solving the pattern matching problem, and current large models like ChatGPT model more "neurons" than are in the human brain, let alone the power that will be available to them in 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's no technical reason to think we won't in the next ~20-50 years

Other than that nobody has any idea how to go about it? The things called "AI" today are not precursors to AGI. The search for strong AI is still nowhere close to any breakthroughs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Assuming that the path to AGI involves something akin to all the intelligence we see in nature (i.e. brains and neurons), then modern AI algorithms' ability to simulate neurons using silicon and math is inarguably and objectively a precursor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Machine learning, renamed "AI" with the LLM boom, does not simulate intelligence. It integrates feedback loops, which is kind of like learning and it uses a network of nodes which kind of look like neurons if you squint from a distance. These networks have been around for many decades, I've built a bunch myself in college, and they're at their core just polynomial functions with a lot of parameters. Current technology allows very large networks and networks of networks, but it's still not in any way similar to brains.

There is separate research into simulating neurons and brains, but that is separate from machine learning.

Also we don't actually understand how our brains work at the level where we could copy them. We understand some things and have some educated guesses on others, but overall it's pretty much a mistery still.

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