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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (19 children)

A lot of Steam Stans here.

Here's some neat facts:

  • Epic Games is the same Source Developers behind Unreal Engine 5. UE5 is arguably the best game engine right now for modern graphics.
  • Epic Games Unreal Engine 5 is Free to start developing and only kicks in commission after X% of sales.
  • Both Steam and GoG take a ~30% commission on all game sales.
  • Steam games aren't DRM-free (neither is EGS, but 0% + the driving force behind UE5?)
  • The Steam Source 2 Engine is proprietary; only their team can develop Source games.

It sucks that EGS is looking to suck up games, customers, data, etc. Their App / Interface also kinda sucks. UE5 on the other hand kinda rules, and Steam has been quietly collecting cheques while their Source Engine has collected dust. Almost all my games are on Steam but the ones I want to keep I've been getting through GoG.

GoG I think has a solid business model of DRM free games and game preservation. EGS is leading in one of the industry's most innovative and developer-accessible game engines for the foreseeable future. Steam is going to have to make some tough decisions I think to compete as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

None of these are why people hate epic games or like gog/steam.

EG is toxicily anticonsumer. Their platform is assbackwards with no good functional community features. They bombard users with ads for games they already own. They spyware they call a store front has repeatedly been caught snooping through user files without consent and sending unknown amounts of data back to their server without permission to gather that data in the first place.

And the cherry on top is their close relationship with tencent, aka one facet of the propaganda arm of the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the cherry on top is their close relationship with tencent, aka one facet of the propaganda arm of the CCP.

I see this a lot and... do they though? From what I can tell, Steam also operates in China. Sure, Tencent invested in EGS, but not in any kind of controlling stake. Tencent does invest in tech and EGS is probably a solid investment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Operating in China and having 10% of your company publicly owned by an entity of the Chinese government are two different things, and EGS has reportedly been all to happy to give over any and all information they have on identified users to the CCP. One article in 2019 suggesting that Hong Kong activists were being targeted by data in part provided through such means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Operating in China and having 10% of your company publicly owned by an entity of the Chinese government are two different things

I don't think it is. Steam operates in China and even allows China to censor the Steam store page and games as needed. Valve doesn't take much issue bending over for China either in that regard. EGS and Steam are both Corporations and China is a large market.

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