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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

Well, interestingly, gen z men are the Trumpiest demographic:

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/11/american-gen-z-podcasts-trump-harris

I guess the meme still holds true, but their concerns about the future are very different. TBH I can totally understand them becoming disillusioned with other old politicians following old voters who will just “do nothing at let it all happen.”

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I know a surprisingly large amount of MAGA/Trump adjacent fans because of my type of work.

  • They're all single dudes. Maybe divorced. Maybe never went on a date.
  • There's Joe Rogan involved.
  • After a few beers, they all will unprompted share their views on Jews, blacks, trans, lesbians, or some other racist shit then back off and pretend it's just a joke.
  • Tell them anything involving empathy "Sorry your dog died" is met with silence or coldness.
  • They all don't give a shit about anybody else besides themselves. And often see themselves as the victim. "Oh Trans person was brutally beaten? Yeah it's a violent world like one time some guy threatened me gotta stay strapped."
  • They may not like Trump's antics. But to them, the Democrats aren't helping THEM. Remember that lack of empathy?
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I worked in local government for nearly a decade and through covid. A lot of cops and former cops in elected positions. This mostly check out.

I would add they overwhelmingly believed homeless people deserved it and/or were subhuman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It’s hard to stay empathetic about homeless when you deal with the worst of them on a daily basis. I worked in parks and my team was constantly getting attacked and cleaning up their urine and feces, blood and needles. There were people offering them access to services every week and the worst ones always refuse. Most people who work in parks are kind introverted people who love plants, and want people to enjoy green space . just seeing my team get punched in the face or their arm broken made it really hard to feel any empathy towards homeless. I really had to work at it.

I mean most people don’t have empathy for the opposite political party, imagine trying to empathize with someone who shits on your desk every day.

Some of them are obviously mentally ill, a few are just down on their luck, but also some of them are violent criminals who carry weapons. It was pretty typical to find some that had open warrants for arrest in other states.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was an inspector for a health department and was directly involved with efforts engaging the sanitary conditions of homeless encampments. I coordinated with the parks departments, transportation departments, etc in responses.

The thing is homelessness subjects people to the violent criminals people blame homelessness on.

That said: I am not going to touch the organizational culture that sends its staff out into situations where they'd provoke being attacked. If there is any question of safety concerns I blame the employer, public or private, that subjects field staff to such dangers without necessary precautions. It seems rather backwards to then redirect blame in such a manner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I totally agree with you-. It’s one of the reasons why I quit - I just couldn’t make things safer or change the attitude of leadership.

I spent a ton of time trying to get the police to help protect my team. Or to get leadership to redirect the police. The police answer was, they didn’t want to enter the parks because it was too dangerous for police because there were plants and trees that made it harder to see danger. Yet They still expected the lowest paid workers to go there and work. I had a day when they basically ignored one of my employees who was getting racist threats as he was picking up trash and accused him of wasting police resources - this was the kindest hardest working 65 year old guy, who wouldn’t have called the police unless he was truly scared for his life.

I basically realized one of my team would have to be killed for anything to really change. Unfortunately it almost happened to another team that handled janitorial services- guy got stabbed. They did start a special team to deal with encampments after that, but there was still no changes in the issues at the parks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

They did start a special team to deal with encampments after that,

This is indicative of why homelessness continues to get worse: action isn't taken until literal violence: completing the self-fulfilling prophecy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Just wanna say I appreciated reading about this perspective.

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