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Yeah, everyone knows that if a moderate like Kamala Harris or Joe Biden had won the election, they'd still be sending anyone who vaguely looks like an immigrant to a Salvadoran concentration camp, throwing dissidents in jail, crashing the economy by levying tariffs on every other country in the world, letting insurrectionists out of prison, turning federal law enforcement agencies into secret police, persecuting and calling for the extermination of LGBTQ people, accepting bribes to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in gifts from authoritarian regimes, abandoning Ukraine and Gaza by cozying up to strongmen like Netanyahu and Putin, letting organised labour be crushed into oblivion by refusing to enforce federal labour law, appointing unqualified morons into Cabinet, and dismantling every consumer protection agency in the US.
Yeah, these are all things that Harris or Biden would have done.
While you can say that the ship of state, or more Americanly, the car of state, doesn't tend to move forward when moderates or conservatives are in charge, the reason is because moderates don't know how to release the handbrake or shift the car out of neutral while conservatives stole the catalytic converter, drained the engine oil, and insist that refueling the car is DEI.
Kamala Harris would undoutable be accepting open bribes for the Qatari government of a 747 jumbo jet which she'd still own personally after her term in office. I'm sure we'd also be stocked up on KAMALACOIN too. The HARRIS GOLD CARD for immigration preferential treatment would certainly have happened. Canada, Europe, and our other allies around the world would absolutely still be citing and recognizing the end of American leadership around the world. Tim Walz would have demanded Zelensky say "thank you" to Harris during their White House meeting. Yeah, certainly both sides are the same. /s
You guys are really on a roll with these strawmen, keep them coming!
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Straw men? You understand that these are actually things that are really happening, right?
Yes I do, but neither I nor the meme is claiming "both sides are the same" nor that any of this would have happened if Kamala had won:
You are dropping this as some kind of gotcha, when it refutes no claim I have made.
removed an extra word
The very first sentence in your meme literally has these words in this order:
"Democrats like Joe Biden are the same as Republicans"
And by the criteria used for the study, their attitudes and values don't substantially differ. That's the point of the article, and is a distinctly different statement than "both sides are the same" - because there is a spectrum of folks on that "side" as I outlined in another reply.
Here is the article shown in the meme: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/biden-moderate-democrats-republicans-conservative-study-john-kasich-aoc-a9699431.html
Here is a snippet of that article:
And here is the table they are referring to in that quote:
Also thank you for not making a deal out of my typo, which I will now go correct.