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Playing devil's advocate: is she wrong? I've seen plenty of racism based upon colour. Every day almost.
Most supposed anti-Semitism I see is anti-Zionism that the media purposely confuses for their agenda.
Having lived in multiple communities where gypsies and travellers are common, some of which are good friends, the hatred or dislike they experience is much lesser, and often is based on actual events such as stealing or offering services that are sub-par.
Let’s look at her actual words, shall we, satan?
She talks about sitting at the back of the bus. Rosa Parks took a stand in 1943. Concurrent to this event, Jewish people, of the Jewish race, were being exterminated in the holocaust. If Diane Abbott is more interested in arguing for a dictionary definition of racism that includes the suffering inflicted on black people but excludes the holocaust, than she is in trying to understand why this would be incredibly offensive to the Jewish community, she can get in the bin.
And if you’re more interested in watering down accusations of antisemitism to mere “anti-Zionism” then you too are more interested in playing with dictionary definitions than you are in calling out actual racism when it actually happens and you can do likewise.
Fortunately you’re just playing devil’s advocate, eh?
What she said is so obviously true that her comments biggest flaw is it's redundancy. She's talking about Tomiwa Owolade's words on racism in Britain. A copper isn't going to spot you from 50 yards away and stop you based on the fact that you're Irish or Jewish because they can't see that. Security isn't going to follow you around a shop and hurry you out the door because you're Irish or Jewish because they can't see that.
I hate identity politics and hierarchies of oppression and language pedantry and all that more than the next person. But when you pretend to not understand an argument which is so obvious and valid, it's hard to believe you're here with honest intent.
I’m not here with honest intent? Abbott was suspended from the Labour Party for what she said. Multiple organisations called them disgraceful. She herself retracted her words, hamfistedly blaming them on a drafting error, and apologised for them. But I’mm, random internet man, am the one who’s arguing in bad faith?
Now she has said that she doesn’t regret that period and clearly her apology was not in any way genuine contrition. She offered empty platitudes to crawl back into the party she claims to love while not in any way actually reflecting on the things she’s said.