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YouTube Says New 5-Second Video Load Delay Is Supposed to Punish Ad Blockers, Not Firefox Users (www.404media.co)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

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[–] [email protected] 635 points 1 year ago (48 children)

"They're the same picture."

Also, that does not explain why:

  • Chrome users who use an adblocker don't get the issue
  • Firefox users who do not use an adblocker get the issue
  • FIrefox users who use an adblocker, but change User Agent to Chrome, don't get the issue

Now, if only we knew who made Chrome and YouTube... The mind boggles.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

What do you mean by change user agent to chrome? Asking 4 a friend

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When you browse to a website, your browser passes info about itself to the server hosting that site. This info is intended to help the server provide the best rendering code for your browser. This is called your User Agent.

However, Google is using it here to identify Firefox users, and is apparently choosing to lump them all in a box called "adblock users" instead of trying to identify an ad blocker more accurately.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you do change your user agent, I would use an extension that does it only on YouTube domains.

We want independent metrics to show rising Firefox use, not falling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah cool I’ll have a look. Any extensions spring to mind?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's because they may use code to detect as blockers that is not legal in the EU, so they might have thought that they're super crafty and used markers such as user agent for their cool coercion delay code thingy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To add on

You can spoof this user agent to see if a website does something shady depending on which browser you're using.

So if you keep all other variables the same, and just toggle the user agent value, YouTube behaves differently

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can we do that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't tried it in a while, but I think there are browser extensions for it. Might need to ask someone else for how to do it these days

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