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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What's the fatality rate for right-on-green? That scenario always seems more dangerous to me than right-on-red unless you have a light where pedestrians get a cycle to themselves. You have the same danger with not seeing a pedestrian, but now you aren't even supposed to stop first, just make the check and decision while moving.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least in the UK, the pedestrian/cyclist green light turns green before the motor's. So by the time the cars reach the crossroad, there's already a stream of pedestrians to prevent the cars to go. So they are forced to wait until that stream is over.

That being said, if you're not within the first stream, it's still pretty dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a question about these. Where I live there's typically a green light for pedestrians, red for cars at the start of the cycle. Then it switches to green for cars, flashing for pedestrians, which means that cars have to give way, pedestrians may finish crossing, but no pedestrians may start crossing.

I am a fast walker, in a hurry, confident at dodging cars, and this is a slow intersection. I arrive at the crosswalk when the pedestrian light is flashing but cross anyway, I know I have plenty of time. Turning car honks on having to give way to me.

Which rule takes priority? I think that even though I'm technically breaking the rules, the car should still have to follow the rules and give way to pedestrians.

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