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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    If Linux wants to ever have adoption outside tech people then it can't be. If a normide has to open up a terminal then that's already one less Linux user.

    I have used Linux for my main PC for a very long time but I have also worked in tech support and your average user will never ever use an OS where using the terminal is mandatory.

    I my opinion there should be some hobbyist distros where the terminal is your daily experience like Arch or Gentoo but the main focus should be accessibility for the average user if adoptability is a goal.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    If you don't like using the Terminal use Mint, but even this one require some basics terminal skills that everybody could learn fast. Linux is made this way.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Oh, there are tons of distros where you don't need to use the terminal for anything, even Manjaro, an arch based distro, doesn't need you to ever open the terminal. I was just saying that if adoption is the goal then using the terminal can't be a requirement for a normal user experience.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Wrong example, Manjaro is probably the less stables distro i've tried, and thoses issues seems to be common when you look at the forum

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What I mean is that using the terminal isn't mandatory in Manjaro while Arch and Arch based distros all require it. So for that it's an excellent example.

    As for stability it's a bit more stable than Arch itself from my experience but I still has issues. The most stable distro I have used was Pop OS, I didn't have a single issue there for like 3 years straight, I only switched because of a hardware change and Pop OS's Mesa version was unstable on the new hardware.

    My central point is still that you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.

    We used to back in the 20th century, when computer didn't had GUI

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    No, we didn't. Average computer users didn't exist then, only tech people.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yep as you said not everybody is made to use a computer, but everybody can learn how to with a minimum of will

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Wait, so you think computer usage should go back to just large companies and a few niche enthusiasts?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Im just saying everybody can learn basic terminal commands, because on Linux you're on your own

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Yes, they can but an average user never will and for Linux to get any adoption beyond the enthusiast space it also can't be a requirement.

    Like it's fine if you believe Linux should never get mass adoption and be a niche desktop OS. All I'm saying is that I want Linux to get mass adoption and for that terminal usage can't be a requirement because your average computer user, who's most advanced computer use is installing an ad blocker on their browser, will never open a terminal.

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