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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

We live in the post-Oslo Accords world. And Israel has been building facts on the ground since Oslo that make the two state(*) solution impossible.

(*) Where by "state" we mean an actual state, not some Bantustan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Sure. The Palestinian refusal to agree to any of the offered two state deal has of course nothing to do with the situation we’re in now.

Yes, some Israeli political movements don’t want a Palestinian state and take as much land as possible. The Palestinian refusal to compromise pragmatically has only enabled them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Go as far back as you like, and we'll be litigating the Islamic conquest from the Roman Empire. This is 2024. Palestine recognized Israel at Oslo. Since there Israel hasn't offered any deal with the exception of the Camp David disaster. Daniel Levy, an Israeli negotiator at the time has explained was not a genuine attempt at peace, but to impose a conquest. And in any case the Barak government was an exception, a parenthesis from the successive right wing governments.

These right wing governments instead have systematically sliced up Palestine salami slice after salami slice and basically imposed an apartheid regime in greater Israel. This isn't just some marginal movement, they are in government. Netanyahu has in fact been in government so long that it is basically Israeli state policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, yea, even if we accept the fucking Times of Israel as an objective source (lol), what the article says is he wasn't allowed to study the contract he was offered. That shows the Israelis were not negotiating in good faith.

No western government would ever agree to a territorial deal without being able to first study the fucking map. I mean, would you agree to buy a laptop if you weren't allowed to see the spec? Much less end a decades old major global conflict.

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