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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (22 children)

Focusing on these people was an unhealthy obsession, and most of the attempts to reach them were needlessly adversarial to the point of being toxic and hardening their resolve to not vote for Harris. Gaza was a losing issue for Harris and this attention just kept it front and center. Sad to see the obsession continue.

Anyways, this is not why Harris lost. It was a landslide and Trump won the popular vote by a huge margin. Americans don't vote in large numbers on foreign policy - not unless Americans are getting killed. Kamala lost because she kept telling struggling families that the economy is great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Adding in an edit: downvote it all you want, you know it's true. Hell, in his last election he DID lose the popular vote. Some democracy. More voters, actual people who took the time and effort to go and actually vote, wanted a different president, and got shown their votes don't matter unless they live in a swing state.

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Anyways, this is not why Harris lost. It was a landslide and Trump won the popular vote by a huge margin. Americans don't vote in large numbers on foreign policy - not unless Americans are getting killed. Kamala lost because she ~~kept telling struggling families that the economy is great~~ has a vagina.

Fixed that for you.

Also she didn't lose the pop vote by a huge margin. 3 million people is literally 1 percent of the population.

If this were a democracy and pop vote mattered, there are probably 10x that number of people who would have actually voted. Then I'd guess she would have won. Look at (greater area) Chicago. 9.5m people. 12 million people total in IL. how many Illinoisans didn't vote because why does it matter? About 2 million probably.

Disclaimer: That last paragraph was obviously arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While establishing actual democracy is absolutely a priority, it's not a guarantee that we would have had a better outcome. Australia has RCV and compulsory voting already, and are trending right anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

No it won't magically fix everything but at least the voters would have no one to blame but themselves for who they elect to office.

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