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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (34 children)

Raise the military spend now. Stop kicking the can. We've helped, sure, but we need to do more.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Raise the military spend now.

Fuck no, cut the military spending and stop fueling wars.

Canada already spend billions of dollars in war, increasing military budget will only get you more war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending. Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they'll happily attack those unable to defend themselves. This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending.

Usa and nato spend 10 times more than what russia does. Open the link and do the math yourself. They have no good excuse to raise the military budget even according to your logic.

Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves.

Go check the history of your country, every authoritarian nation will try to do that. Raising military spending does not make people more secure, it only increase rulers and government power. Wars are fought by people not money.

This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

Spending more on war will get you more war. You can see it happening right now in ukraine and middle east.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is only a war in Ukraine because Pootin illegally invaded it.

War could stop tomorrow if he pulled forces back to Russias border.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine attacking russia in their territory with US and NATO weapons isn't going to make russia stop, it will give russia even more claims to keep up with the war. That's how weapons give you more war.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But it ok for Russia to attack any part of Ukraine?

Typical bully behaviour- attacking someone weaker than themselves and then complaining when the victim fights back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are not just complaining about it they are using it as leverage to their propaganda and to send more people into war.

Bullies a lot of times don't attack you directly, they threaten you and piss you off until you end up attacking them. The reality of this war and pretty much all others is that there's a bunch of rulers who benefit from war and seek more of it not less. During the past century USA and Russia have been provoking and fighting each others directly and in proxy wars. Cutting military budget to 0 is how you stop wars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Cutting to zero".

Wishful thinking. One side cuts to zero hoping the other side does the same, only to be attacked.

Or, Russia stops its illegal war of aggression.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

only to be attacked.

You can defend yourself from an attacker even if your government gives 0 public money to the war industry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but you're going to have to expand on that last statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know i shouldn't answer to idiots but here you go:

You and your government are two different things. If someone attack you you can defend yourself even if the government doesn't put a gun in your hands. Some example? The 200$ drones they are using in ukraine to defend themself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Do you not think a trained professional military could make that guerrilla warfare more costly for the occupiers? Couldn't an effective military simply prevent the invasion?

Check out the CNT-FAI and how well that strategy worked for them in the late 30s.

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