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[–] RedC@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 months ago (33 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Alec Baldwin is guilty of at least negligence with a firearm, although I'd go for manslaughter.

Being an actor doesn't absolve you of all responsibility. Anyone else who accidentally kills someone else get charged with manslaughter. The fact that the public doesn't see this obvious fact proves the stranglehold the rich have on American ideals. In any other professional job if I killed someone accidentally, whether it be with a gun, a car, or my own two hands, I would expect to atleast get tried for it.

That and Mr Baldwin straight up LIED about how it even happened. He told a story of the gun firing itself that several firearms experts, including the agency that was investigating, all said is impossible on the model of firearm he had. Yet everyone believes he shouldn't be charged.

If you had nothing to worry about, you wouldn't lie. He lied because he knows he didn't do his job.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (13 children)
[–] RedC@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What exactly do you mean? He's an actor. My point is that that doesn't absolve you of firearm safety

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes but his point is that Baldwin wasn't responsible for firearms safety on the set at all he was just an actor the armorer is the one who's responsible. Just like the person who hires the Hitman is responsible for the death, the person who is the armorer on the set is responsible for this person's death.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Rule #1 of firearms safety is to not point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot.

How the fuck would that work in a movie, exactly?

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Easy, by not using real guns

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lots and lots of cuts, lol. Green screen everything. In an action scene, every single actor must be in completely different room, or shoot their part at different times, then composite everything together. No movies will ever have the weapon pointed at the camera, ever. Such scenes are now banned.

Also, if any scene involves picking up a weapon, they must cut, the actor must check the weapon, then resume filming after. This must be done on every take.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's the actor going to check? How heavy it is? They don't have a clue.

If by "check" you mean somebody who is an expert or is informed by experts makes a judgement about the weapon and announces it, that happened.

Court submissions say assistant director David Halls did not know the gun contained live ammunition, and indicated it was unloaded by shouting "cold gun!"

The armourer who provided the weapon did receive a manslaughter conviction. It was their responsibility, and they either screwed up or let themselves get bullied into screwing up by the asshat AD.

It is revealed assistant director David Halls had been sacked from a previous production, war drama Freedom's Path, over gun safety violations in 2019.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rust-assistant-director-david-halls-sentenced-deadly-set/story?id=98268586

He was sentenced already for negligence.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

There's a bunch of comments that are 100% serious in suggesting this stuff :/

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