Source: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19656844
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Remember that this is the fault of the countries wanting to join NATO so they can help the countries defend themselves against Russia and anything else you might hear is western imperialistic propaganda.
I fucking hate the fact that the lead developer of one of the most popular and widely used Fediverse software is a fucking commie and a genocide denier! Smh!
Being a communist is fine, it's the simping for authoritarian regimes that are communists-in-name-only (CINO) and genocide denying
I'd bet a whole paycheck that if Russia was aligned with Israel instead of the US they'd be defending the Palestinian genocide instead
I will for-real never understand the connection between "I like communism and power for working people" and "I support China and Russia." The two statements simply have nothing at all to do with each other, they're not compatible. I've asked some of them to explain it to me, and the closest I've gotten to an answer has been more or less that they don't like the US, so they will support an enemy of the US, no matter how horrifying the enemy is or what crimes they are committing or whether they are communist or not.
Congratulations, guys, you invented CIA logic. It was one of the dominant forces making the 20th century worse, which is saying quite a lot, and now you're deep-throating it like you're training for an event.
Yeah, ultimately they are just hypocritically anti west. It's never any deeper than that. Even when they try to deflect claiming you haven't read enough theory. It's like brother, have you ever thought critically? I've read most of C.S. Lewis's books of fiction. But I'm not constantly expecting any lions or witches in my wardrobe.
Yeah. Even if they were just anti-West, it would be fine. I talked with someone around the first time Trump got elected who was super in favor of him, and he explained to me "The US keeps fucking up my country, and so if they put a moron in charge and he fucks up your country instead then (a) good (b) you deserve it (c) maybe then you'll leave us alone." I had absolutely no room to disagree with him. It made perfect sense.
But on Lemmy, it's never that. It's always "There is no genocide in Xinjiang you're just deluded by Western propaganda anyway it's all NATO's fault that half of Ukraine is a big rubble field and graveyard and Russia never lies, here watch Tucker Carlson and Dmitri Peskov, there's a couple of guys who've got their heads on straight." I guess it is cognitive dissonance, nobody wants to just say "Yes I am on team murderer because I don't like your government, and regardless of what I say or do my guys are going to keep killing Ukrainian kids, so what's the point of my trying to say they shouldn't."
Yep, I legit have no beef with anyone that's against the wests manipulation/exploitation of other countries/groups. Just those that would use it as an excuse or reason for others to do the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Really rooting for Piefed because of this
Come join us!
I have an alt on one piefed instance, just waiting for Voyager to support it a little better
Fucking commie is fine. Genocide denier, not so much.
Fucking commie is fine
Commies and "Fucking Commies" are two different categories. If we put them both on a spectrum, fucking commie would be at the extreme end while Commie would be at the lighter end. Dessalines is at the extreme end. Hence Fucking Commie!
I mean I was super happy to see when I first came to Lemmy and found out that communism and so on were common. It shows a healthy exchange of real differing views, it's more similar to the old internet or BBS culture where you can find people who are for-real doing their own thing, not just Facebook or Google News or whatever other nightmare that the chaotic landscape that used to be the internet has become.
Since then, I've gotten more familiar with them, and the shine has come off the rose a little bit lol. But I say that because of the particular breed of hard-authoritarian communism and all these dishonest and hateful ways of interacting that they all seem to have, not because I have a problem with communism.
Authoritarian bootlickers are not real communists.
True communists give the power to the people, not a dictator.
i wonder were they ever on reddit? any of these people and got banned from them and decided to make thier own platform.
I was checking out Reddit recently, and there are plenty of tankies there, they don't seem to be doing so badly, so I guess you have to be a tankiest tankie to get banned there.
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I've already blocked this... place. It might be a bit too much to block an entire instance, but their behavior is concerning.
Wait... you can block an entire instance?
Yes, in your settings. Some clients give you the option to block right from the home page with a drop down, iirc. This should be available in Lemmy-UI ~~but I guess Dessalines would never approve it for obvious reasons.~~
Jerboa:
Might be client-dependent, mine allows it
yes. i blocked the triad of tankies and any extremist posts/and porn. you can go to settings>BLOCKS(YOU CAN block communities, people, instances)
I think it's interesting that RT said that trump is Russia's counterpart. They're saying he's an authoritarian POS too.
Eh. That's actually a pretty standard thing journalists do. What it means is that Both of them are presidents of their respective country.
... While I very much have strong issues with the tankie/horse shoe theory propaganda...
y'all are really suggesting boycotting lemmy.ml because the head admin there is an a-hole... while using lemmy... that said admin is the head dev of.
To paraphrase, NWA said “fuck the police” when they meant “I’m profoundly disappointed in the police for their barbarism and abject bigotry.” Do I think the police are a net positive to society? Yes. Do I wish they’d stop being power tripping pricks with clear sociopolitical biases that serve as a detriment to everyone in contact with them? also yes.
fucking bootlicker, do better
Do what better? Verbalize why I don’t trust the police or complain about web devs?
Code is code, open source is open source.
Lemmy is coded to be a link aggregator type social media, there's nothing inherently political about it.
It's the fact that they use their supposed "test instance" and their influence as the Lemmy developers to spread their "message" because they know that it's going to be difficult for other instance admins to defederate from the "Dev instance" that's the problem.
And indeed that's pretty much what's playing out, most instances defederate from the first 2 of the triad fairly easily, but when it comes to the .ml instance admins are hesitant. Even though .ml allows much of the same crap, just "tempered" under the surface.
Not all of us. But yes. And?
Being the developer of a software is one thing. Software is basically a tool. Good or bad is in the use of it. In application his use is bad. But plenty of us see the likely writing in the wall and are making moves accordingly as well.
I don't really want to use any software when the administrators/developers of this software do not recognize the genocide of my people (or other peoples) and speak similar tankie nonsense. Lemmy is not very popular as it is, and I don't think it will become more popular if the administrators/developers are... like this. The good thing is that it's open source, and there are alternatives.
Having observed some different types of team dynamics in my day, I feel like Nutomic is clearly the one who does most of the dev work and Dessalines the one who makes most of the noise and pisses people off. It’s a fairly common dynamic.
Nutomic thinks that trans people are a bourgeois conspiracy, so I maybe wouldn't let them off the hook that easily
Well, but that's just a bad opinion. I don't think we need to go full-on attack mode against any particular person who has any particular "incorrect" opinion even if it is hateful or whatever. People can just talk it out. I'm probably in the minority on that, I know that it's popular at this point to go on the attack against anyone who steps on any one of a set of particular rhetorical land mines. I just feel like by doing that, you aren't really educating anyone, you're just introducing coercion into the equation and teaching people to be dishonest about what they believe if they don't want to get attacked.
The issue with Dessalines that I haven't seen from Nutomic is that he requires everyone else to have bad opinions, too, and will ban or attack them if they ever express anything other than his own bad opinions, on certain topics. That's a lot more toxic to me than someone just saying something that I think is ignorant.
Nutomic probably just drew the short straw and is supposed to be the one that doesn't look like a complete asshole. And he's still failing at that.
Nutomic thinks that trans people are a bourgeois conspiracy
I...don't even get how that would work.
Come to piefed. Then you won't have the moral conundrum.
They're are dozens of us!
I ditched lemmy and went to piefed exactly for this asshole (dessalines).
Also I don't get why some people defend said asshole while there have been tons of threads roasting in unison software like Brave or Hyprland or IDK what else for their dev being transphobic or racist or whatever. I'm not a fan of either of those, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Oh God, what did the Hyprland guy do
It's getting hard to keep up
Fuck off, it aint like there alternatives like mbin and piefed
Asshole
This is a weird comment
That encapsulates every interaction I've seen from that domain so far. 🤷♀️
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