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I wonder if they will concentrate all of the prisoners in one spot before they implement Ben’s solution
With so many prisoners it's gotta be hard to process all of those death penalties. I wonder if there is a fast and efficient way to apply the death penalty. Maybe they can do it in groups
They could look into repurposing farming equipment and supplies given all the shortages they’re experiencing
We've started going full death camp yet people still don't believe that there's a genocide. There are no words to describe just how truly disgusting that is.
But when I compare this genocide to the Holocaust I get called an antisemite
those people are saying that in bad faith. they're wiping their asses with the memory of the holocaust, not you
Yes, that comparison is absurd. Don't do that.
30'000 death, including the terrorists mind you, in more than 6 months means roughly 160 per day. The numbers are hardly going up in the past months.
Ausschwitz, one concentration camp out of many, saw more than 1 million people murdered in about 3 years, about 900 per day.
so when the entire population of gaza strip gets murdered is your argument gonna be "it's not a holocaust because there were only 2.2 million Palestinians to begin with"
Only pure death figures which match Auschwitz are actual genocides. Got you.
(Fucking what?)
See that's where you are wrong. Calling evil by showing how it is similar to another evil isn't trying to minimize one. Is it just about numbers? Their universities, schools, hospitals, records and cultures are being destroyed as we speak. Children are being starved. So you're saying this isn't evil enough? Comparing numbers is Israili propaganda at this point. Never again means never again for anyone.
You can compare them in that they are both genocides. The Holocaust was certainly a genocide done on a much larger scale, especially near the end of Nazi Germany. But there isn't a certain death count needed to count as a genocide, we have multiple international definitions to determine and (ideally) prevent them.
Leaving aside the fact that it's not the volume that defines genocide, what you're saying doesn't seem to take into account the way that genocide ramped up from a lower initial death rate. The Nazis weren't killing anything like that in the first 6 months.
Aid agencies like UNICEF are saying that at the moment a child is wounded or killed every ten minutes in Gaza.
In 0.5 years the Gaza genocide has already killed about 1.5% of the population. By comparison the Bosnian genocide killed 3% of the population over 2 years.
Yes, this comment is absurd. Don't do that.
If you're arguing about volume when we're talking about a fascist occupier murdering ethnic prisoners during a genocide, your argument the way the fuck off base.
Fascists gonna fascist.
That's hardly a good reason to tolerate scum like these anymore.
What are you some kind of antifa-cist‽
Israel is going to build camps to concentrate their prisoners.
Nazionists, nazionists everywhere
Soon they'll start sending them to the showers. We've seen this before. Fascists never change
Reminder that even West Bank children who couldn't possibly have any link to Hamas get thrown in jail, by incarcerators able to do whatever the fuck they want because, as they're jailing people outside of their jurisdiction, and the Palestinian Authority has no means to stop it, they don't have to answer to anyone.
Just thought you would appreciate the context.
How do they define security prisoners in this context? Is this Gitmo or Aushwitz? Both are war crimes.
Also, you would think these Israeli leaders would be more careful about using the word solution in the context of murdering the fuck out of your political prisoners.
Since Palestinians have no human or civil rights under Israeli Occupation, they can be detained and convicted with no to little evidence. Subject only to military courts they have no fair trial and it's quite normal to coerce (false) confessions. This includes children.
Military Courts - B'TSelem
Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests - Amnesty International
After spending the morning reading about the history of Zionism and direct quotes from a bunch of those dudes, honestly, your comment sounds like everything is going exactly to plan.
'In 1938, Ben Gurion described the conflict with the Arabs as "in its essence a political one... politically we are the aggressors and they [the Arabs] defend themselves." Israeli historian Benny Morris affirms Ben Gurion's description, saying: "Ben-Gurion, of course, was right" and goes on to describe Zionism as "a colonizing and expansionist ideology and movement" whose "ideology and practice were necessarily and elementally expansionist." Morris describes the Zionist goal of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine as necessarily displacing and dispossessing the Arab population. The practical issue of establishing a Jewish state in a majority non-Jewish and Arab region was a fundamental issue for the Zionist movement. Revisionist Zionist Ze'ev Jabotinsky described the notion of "transfer" (the Zionist euphemism for ethnic cleansing of the Arab Palestinian population) as a "brutal expulsion" which could resolve this challenge. The idea of transfer was not unique to Revisionist Zionism, in fact, as explained by Morris, "the idea of transferring the Arabs out... was seen as the chief means of assuring the stability of the 'Jewishness' of the proposed Jewish State".
According to Morris, the idea of ethnically cleansing the land of Palestine was to play a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement. He explains that "transfer" was "inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism" and that a land which was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population. Further, the stability of the Jewish state could not be ensured given the Arab population's fear of displacement. He explains that this would be the primary source of conflict between the Zionist movement and the Arab population.'
Mind you, that's Wikipedia, but none the less.
Closer to Gitmo, in that a percentage of the prisoners are actually a threat to "peace" and have committed various crimes. Also like Gitmo a percentage are only in there because their neighbor wanted to steal their land.
The answer to prison/jail overcrowding is to release prisoners. Allways. If you're imprisoning so many people that you can't actually hold all of them, you're imprisoning too many people.
And the answer to vacant cells is to congragulate the population on their low crime rate, but the for profit system in the US just finds reasons to put more people in jail and keep them there longer.
Never thought I'd see the 'cycle of abuse' play out with the fucking Holocaust, jfc
The U.S. needs to cut ties with Israel and back away from them. They are not allies. They have been using the U.S. for decades due to our gullible myth-obsessed politicians being heavily lobbied by them. If money were removed from politics, the relationship would dissolve almost immediately.
We get absolutely nothing of value from our relationship with Israel. There is no special strategic advantage as we have bases, NATO countries and allies nearby as well as multiple carrier groups in the Med. Our commerce with them is not special in any way. So, why give them billions a year and stand by their side as they commit genocide and start fights with their neighbors?
We should have no business there except, perhaps, to protect innocent people from genocide.
Such little respect for human life is disgusting. Killing in the name of overcrowding is not valid reason to murder.
What a dick.
A dick is a person who steals candies from kids. This one doesn't qualify. He is one among the worst human beings possible.
I'm sure the end solution to this problem will be as cheap and efficient as zyklon-b.
This ass hat is a complete troll. He's like Israel's Lauren Boebert. Both need to go.
Contrary to Boebert Ben Gvir is a convicted terrorist. In fact he has been indicted 53 times and convicted 7 times.
The real problem: Ben Gvir is a critical part of the coalition that keeps Netanyahu in power, meaning his has significant influence over israel law.
Ben Gvir has faced criminal charges of hate speech against Arabs and was known to have a portrait in his living room of Israeli-American mass murderer and Jewish extremist Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in Hebron, in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre.
The difference is Bobo is a powerless rep that will lose her seat and can't stay in coalition with anyone while this guy is a minister who if I recall correctly has the portfolio of overseeing all the police in Israel.
It's a mistake to discount cabinet ministers.
The war made possible for us the solution of a whole series of problems that could never have been solved in normal times.
I'm sure I'm late to the party but... clearing throat.
I did Nazi that coming.
Israel (the govt) is acting gross.
Geez they're literally talking like nazis, no? Aren't they actually doing things like the nazis did too? This is all like a sick horrific joke. The jews are now like the nazis were. How oxymoronic can you get.