As nobody has mentioned this yet. Vote! On Sunday all Germans vote on their representation in the EU. Vote for the pirate party or another progressive party. Vote out the grandpa's and grandma's that want to "protect" their adult children.
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2024
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Absolutely right
VOLT is fine too!
I agree
I was considering to vote for Volt, but I fear, that their approach to save the climate might get overrun by other liberal parties. I'm currently considering voting for die Piraten.
Pirates are an awesome Party don't misunderstand me, I just like VOLT's approach to unify the EU more.
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Wait, you guys have a pirate party over there? That's actually really cool
I wish our parties over here in the states were more interesting like that (also that we have more of them and need a completely different system but that's besides the point)
As most child abuse happens in the homes by the parents or relatives, when can we expect 24/7 surveilance in our homes?
Oh wait its not about protecting children, is it?
They say that it's about to protect children but that ask a big question for our privacy
an open letter already signed by multiple privacy-focused companies and digital rights organizations: https://www.globalencryption.org/2024/05/joint-statement-on-the-dangers-of-the-may-2024-council-of-the-eu-compromise-proposal-on-eu-csam/
edit: also, contact your representation: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo
thank you
Another day, another stupid fucking government surveillance overreach
So here in the states, teens who are romantically active sometimes sext each other (sometimes even as an alternative to actual sex). But law enforcement is very fond of regarding it as CSAM, even to the point of convicting teenagers of distribution. Of all fifty states, only Maine has carved out a defense for teen couples utilizing their phone cameras in a way that is ragingly common among adults.
All fifty states have Romeo and Juliet laws so they recognize that teens sometimes have sex. But as it is, they're not allowed to sext. (also R+J laws often don't apply to same-sex couples).
So I'm all curious how the EU plans to tackle this revelation
So I'm all curious how the EU plans to tackle this revelation
They do not. At all.
So as per the rest of western cultures, they freak out and abuse teens when they engage in normal sexual activity? Do they imprison them the way they do here?
I'm worried too but I doubt countries who voted against it will just lie down and turn over. I'm sure local courts will fight this on the grounds of national privacy laws. And just because the EU wishes this to be a thing doesn't mean it's happening too. The technological groundwork needs to be developed for this and I can imagine that some service will drag their feet at implementing that. At least that's my unicorn utopia with rainbows I currently live in to bear this reality 🫠
The EU will already have projects in development as far as my experience goes.
What I do not know though but think applies: Such an act is legally binding for all member states. If they fight these things, they are allowed to propose at the EU court for adjustment in order to be aligned with the national law. This can postpone the national implementation for a few years.
But it can only be revoked by a new act of the EU council.
And they can simply ignore any new suggestion of the EU parliament if they like to.
If this law passes I will delete What's App. I don't fucking care how many contacts I will loose. Matrix it is then.
You know even without the law should consider deleting whatsapp and switched to signal or other private stuff
I would prefer Matrix or XMPP, they don't have the risks regarding centralization and are thus far harder to censor.
For sure these are better for a more private and can avoid censorship far more easily, you can use Session as well, but the of Signal is really good because of their solid proved encryption. Snowden and others recommend it. Maybe not the absolute best but far away from the worst
Signal is also great because it is easy to use, and works on all mobile platforms. It's probably the easiest secure chat app to get people onboard with using.
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Yes, I try to avoid it, but its kinda ass, if you loose contact to literally everyone you know.
I already use Signal and matrix for certain groups and contacts.
I can understand I've gone trough that as well, but you know it's so much safer to use a more private messaging app, as example we suspect the Israeliens to use AI and WhatsApp to organize murders to suspected pro Palestinians people, based on their groups on whatsapp...
Results of last voting, so you know who not to choose on Sunday:
I'm relieved that the group I wanted to vote was against. I'm frightened that it was the only one against in France 😱
Which group in France is against? I consider making this issue a top priority for choosing who I vote for.
80% for, as in "in favour of scanning", or am I misinterpreting something?
No, I think that's corrext because our conservative CDU/CSU party voted in favor and we all know how those ultra-conservative christians vote.
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Just for the record, a post title usually lets you know what the content will be about.
"... we know that Microsoft, Google and Facebook have already agreed to this."
Wait, what?
from the article:
So far only some unencrypted US communications services such as GMail, Facebook/Instagram Messenger, Skype, Snapchat, iCloud email and X-Box apply chat control voluntarily (more details here)
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i put my real name, the eu would be surprised.
This is beyond stupid. Criminals will continue using encryption. Citizens are mandated to forfeit any semblance of privacy. This is tyranny in it's plainest form.
Maybe try to seduce policemen being better at sexting?
So session, signal or telegram. OK.
First telegram is not private.
And then Signal would not keep his EU market if this law applied, for session and all more independents services they could maybe go trough this law... but even with this it's a big no-no
Telegram is an FSB cafe.
Signal's CEO has already said they will leave the EU if the law passes.
Session is cool but sometimes unreliable in the delivery.
SimpleX is also quite interesting. But I don't use it enough to say something about the reliablity.
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