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Updates about lemmynsfw.com

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Hey yall! It's gavi here! It's been quite a whirlwind over these past few weeks. Yesterday our lovely @yay made a post in regard to wanting to take a step away from lemmynsfw, and there was a lot of confusion from that post so I'm here now to talk about some of things that have occurred behind the scenes.

Who is hosting now?

Right now, our team is expanding and changing. @yay will still be doing primary hosting, but we now have more back-end admins and a more carefully coordinated backend team spread across time zones. We are discussing migrating the server, as well as other things. When any changes are expected to occur, an announcement will be made. This will not a profit-based project, so bear with us here.

What about the content policy? Is scat banned, whats the deal?

Right now, as lemmy expands, we will be having a temporary pause on specific niche content that may potentially risk our instance being defederated. This is not permanent, and we have no personal qualms with such content, but we need to make this choice until mod tools improve and make sure that we aren't flooding /all with stuff that might cause issues for other instances.

The following content has a temporary pause and we will review such as lemmy evolves and improves. The removal of these communities are not permanent.

Hot lunch, blood, scat

The following content however will not be welcome on our instance, no matter if mod tools improve.

noncon, depictions of underage content drawn or otherwise (Loli/Shota/Cub/Etc), deepfakes & revenge porn (elaboration will be expanded in upcoming content policy updates.), snuff, beastiality

Furry content is not banned and furries are welcome here provided they follow the content policy as outlined above. That said, if you are posting furry content, consider posting it on a specifically furry instance as they more equipped to moderate that content than we are at this time.

Generally, we are discussing improving our content policy, and will provide a thread elaborating further upon existing policies and allowing discussion and feedback in a separate thread in the near future. Keep a look out.

Current staff situation

I have been made the lead admin for the site. We are trying to figure out a feasible situation for staffing to prevent burn out and evenly distribute content administration across time zones. We will likely be having staff apps in the future, so if that is something you would be interested in keep an eye out for that. Right now, our biggest thing is working with the limited mod tools we have. It's really a matter of trial and error and having a more carefully coordinate staff leadership is something that would be beneficial for the site at large.

Federated And Defederated Instances

As some have already seen, some instances have defederated from us. That is fully their right to if they want to disengage from NSFW content entirely. However, if the defederation was due to a concern or issue outside of that within our instance, we would like to discuss the matter and at least make a fair attempt to address their concerns. Our desire moving forward is to establish communication with instance admins to address concerns that may be popping up, as well as just generally creating an open line of communication and encouraging feedback from them and their community at large. There will likely be a public matrix community created for the site as well that will foster technical discussions of the site only, such as sharing downtime, development, etc. I will personally be attempting to reach out to larger instance admins. With that being said, if there is any instance admin that see this and would be interested in reaching out please do not hesitate to. My matrix address is within my profile.

We are currently discussing defederating instances that may put some of our communities at risk or violate our own content policies, and if that occurs that will be announced promptly.

NSFW Tagging

Right now, we are investigating some way to completely designate the entire instance with nsfw tags by default and ways to more properly blur community icons, but there are hurdles and limits to the current nsfw tagging system within lemmy. With that being said, admins and mods cannot tag nsfw content that isn't properly tagged, and some lemmy apps are particularly finnicky with nsfw tags. It's a pain in the ass, but we REALLY need to be making sure our content properly tagged so that it doesn't pop up in federated instances as untagged nsfw content. There will likely be a crackdown on said posts that are not tagged properly, so please be aware of this fact and triple check that your posts are properly tagged. I am sorry for the impending hardass attitude from myself on the matter, but this is really critical to maintaining good will with other instances that decide to federate NSFW content.

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[–] cp8u64 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So is the Patreon still being directed towards server costs?

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[–] bsgtftw 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks for being thoughtful about this. It's a lot of work and I know it's tough to make these decisions.

[–] Maaji 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm interested in volunteering if you are still looking for site level moderation.

[–] gavi 2 points 2 years ago

Keep an eye out for staff apps then!

[–] sirtwinklebottom 3 points 2 years ago

Thank you all for your time and effort. Seems everything has been well thought out.

[–] rustling_leaves 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the post and transparency regarding those niche topics!

[–] BigMcLargeHuge 3 points 2 years ago

Do I want to know what 'hot lunch' is?

[–] hwagoolio 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I noticed this rule added to the sidebar:

Any content made or released without consent of the model, including but not limited to “revenge porn”, deepfakes made without explicit consent, true voyeur content (upskirts, hidden camera, etc), Girls Gone Wild (yes, we know some of that was made with consent, but a lot of it wasn’t and we will not be responsible for separating the two), and mainstream porn from studios and/or creators that have been outed as practicing noncon.

To clarify, does this mean all of the GoneWild communities are all banned?

I'm confused -- what is the defining feature of a GoneWild subreddit? And how are the pictures there different from the pictures at boobs or penis? Doesn't that technically make it so that all kinds of OC is banned because there's no way to verify the model?

[–] MikeyMongol 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] hwagoolio 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Okay. It might be good to distinguish between the two (I've never even heard of that company), and there are a lot of Gone Wild communities here (and from reddit).

There was a post earlier this week complaining that not all of the gonewild communities here are OC-only though -- which technically runs into the issue that they're probably not reposted with explicit consent/permission.

[–] MikeyMongol 4 points 2 years ago

That's ironic, because that's where the gonewild subreddits took their name from. And yes, that's a fair point, and one we'll have to deal with sooner rather than later. Everything is still very new and in flux! We'll get to it though.

[–] ResidentBloodBoner 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I hope this is question isn't too unrelated to everything going on, but a few days ago I asked yay if it would be possible to set up a Liberapay to help fund the instance.

He said that because of payment processors, specifically PayPal and Stripe, being blocked where he lives, it wouldn't be a feasible donation option. With yay transferring the project management and donation platforms to others as he stated in his post about stepping down, would setting up accounts there and other platforms such as Ko-Fi be feasible, or would it still not be the case?

[–] ___ 3 points 2 years ago

As far as I'm aware yay will still be paying the bills for the foreseeable future, so I doubt that's the case.

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