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That sucks, but I don't think the West, nor China and very not Russia are willing to waste hundreds of thousands of soldiers lives for everything to be exactly the same again in 20 years. Afghanistan actively rejects civilisation.
Or maybe the two decades-long invasions did extreme damage and brought insane brutality to a poor population?
When America was in control, we set up a strong central bank system to help stabilize the country. Afghans filled the bank with their savings, these funds were outside of the control of the Taliban. The middle class, the opposition to the Taliban, were growing. Then as the US left, we looted every penny. Overnight thousands were bankrupted, leading to economic depression and a huge gain for the Taliban.
Civilization actively rejects Afghanistan.
In 1916 France and the UK create the Sykes-Picot secret agreement with agreement of Russia and Italy to divide the middle east in a way so they would never be able to pose any threat and could be easily manipulated into their spheres of influence, by cutting through areas of ethnic and religious affiliations.
108 years later on Lemmy "Afghanistan actively rejects civilization". It's just unfair to say such a thing when so many civilizations have contributed so much to ensure Afghanistan would never be able to be politically and economically stable.
If anything, everyone should stop sending soldiers to Afghanistan and simply support them humanitarily throughout the long road of recovery ahead of them from what has been done to them for the last 100 years. Ideally, France and the UK should be bearing the brunt of the cost of that humanitarian effort, but in practice, it's difficult to pin the blame on modern day France and UK of their forefathers' sins.
Is your argument that multiple empires have tried bombing Afghanistan into being a civilized country, but by golly, they want to be savages?
Do you maybe want to, and I'm just brainstorming here, play that out in your head a few more times and rethink your response?
„They hate us for our freedom!“ eh?
> say they reject civilisation
> Ignore the resistance movements and organisations actively fighting Taliban rule
> Ignore the independent media organisations being crushed by the Taliban for speaking out against the Taliban
> Ignore the people fleeing Afghanistan every day because of the Taliban.
> Ignores the geopolitical fuckery that gave rise to the modern state of Afghanistan.
> Ignores that the Taliban was formed from the Mujahedeen, an organisation funded by the US to fight the Soviets.
Yes, clearly the Afghani people are savages who cannot be redeemed. There's no external factors for the clusterfuck that is the Taliban. Anyone who says otherwise is a liberal hippy. /s
Can't they just ban TikTok, RT, Africa Stream, teenagers, etc?
I guess these smaller states don't have the imperial power to crush dissent like USA.
Oh yes, dissent is completely crushed. That's why Fox News is broadcasting every night during the Biden administration and the late night shows were hammering Trump every night when he was in power.
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