This is what russian "liberation" looks like.
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Just the same with the nazis, who burned every city in Lapland on their way to Norway. Right around the same time too.
Weren't Finland (technically) allied with the Nazis?
They were, but the context there is that the alliance was a pretty direct result of the abject failure of both the Anglo-French Supreme War Council and the League of Nations to do literally anything meaningful in the face of the Soviet invasion in the Winter War.
Germany actually did quietly supply them with war materiel during the war, until some Swedish journalists broke the story, after which Germany prioritized Soviet relations due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. That was one of the main factors that led to the eventual reliance: the Soviets could clearly not be trusted (they invaded); the League of Nations was obviously powerless; the Anglo-French alliance - ostensible allies to Finland - evidently couldn’t find their ass with both hands and completely failed to respond for the entire span of the war; meanwhile, the Germans actually shipped equipment, though they geopolitically had their hands tied with treaty obligations (that they weren’t openly violating at the time).
To be clear, this is not Nazi apologia. This is an explanation of the geopolitical context at the time, and what motivated the eventual alliance between Finland and Nazi Germany, in terms of Finnish motivations: pure pragmatism in the face of an obviously expansionist neighbor with a HUGE military.
Also, yes, as u/grissino said, the Nazis did enjoy burning shit when they had to retreat, regardless of whether it was the territory of an allied nation.
That didn't stop the nazis from doing a little scorched earth behind them (while evacuating Finland and on their way to Norway, through Lapland).
Fuck Russia. Nobody with a sane mind in the EU wants the worthless destructive Muscovites to return.
Certainly can't think of any other nations that are or were in the EU who did shit like this in the 40's.
Speaking of which... This is 1944. The savvy history buff might know that the Winter War ended before then, and ask themselves why Karelia is burning in that case?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
Oh, look at who Finland is allies with!
The difference is that Germany is ashamed of what they did during that time, and their national ethos is never doing that again.
Meanwhile, Russia idolises the imperialism of the Soviet Union, the only change is that some of their marches have swastikas as well as the hammer and sickle.
Finland had a right to defend itself against the Soviets, and it's not like the West didn't ally with a genocidal mass murderer as well.
Nazi simps, lol, just straight up using nationalist slurs while ignoring the actual context of the photo in question and having the sheer fucking GALL to compare those alliances.
All while babbling about how "they don't repent their history, not like our totally justified alliance with fucking Hitler"
Yes, I know what that sopuli.xyz means, you hypocrite.
The Winter War was one thing, trying to help the Nazis win an actively genocidal war was another.
Shouldn't you be defending Kursk right now or something?
Lol
I'm an anarchist, but nice try, shitlib.
Anarchist who spreads Russian lies and propaganda. Try your anarchist shit there and see how far your love for them goes.
I’m an anarchist
sure thing edgelord. sure.
I'm not Finnish. And what nationalist slurs?
The US helped win an actively genocidal war for Stalin. I don't fault them, even though a US bombing run caused lifelong suffering to my loved ones, because on the Eastern front there were no good guys, and using one mass murderer to kill another is fair.
All I'm saying is that there is no difference between the genocidal imperialism of Hitler, and the genocidal imperialism of Stalin. Both murdered millions, yet only one of them has a following in their homeland that is not actively persecuted.
In the most of Eastern Europe, where these madmen committed their crimes, if you wave a swastika flag around, or one with a hammer and sickle, you are going to jail either way, as it should be. Just like in Germany. Why not in Russia?
I'm trying to wrap my head around being so goddamn ignorant that I don't know the Nazis planned to genocide or enslave every Slav as someone that lives in their future Lebensraum but the reality is you're just full of it.
Talk about hypocritical. Forgetting the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact are you?
Russia are Nazis through and through. Their genocide, their imperialism, their standing up of the most horrific dictators around the world.
Don't you ever forget Russia would be speaking German if not for America and keep your bullshit Nazi propaganda to yourself.
Damn, I wonder why the Finns would ally with the nazis after being brutally attacked just a few years earlier
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Do you know why? Who decided not help Finland to kick the Soviets out of the territory they took? The USA and UK, because you clowns were helping the number 2 ranked murderer, Stalin and sick Bolsheviks. Finland had no choice but to ask fucking Hitler for help. The disgusting part, the Americans and British already knew who the next enemy was after the Nazis were finished off. I always laugh at the Americans who believe in fighting for "Freedom and Democracy," what a load of bullshit. The Suomi were building a democracy and they were attacked with US military aid sent to the fucking Soviets.
Cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
Cut an anarchist and a Russian stooge bleeds
Whatever lets you sleep at night, but we both know you'd have been the coward in the village pretending they don't know why no one comes out of the camps.
Russia joined Nazi Germany in an alliance during WW2.
Russia is murdering civilians without pause and you are okay with this.
Your brand of anarchy is garbage.
Tilting at a strawman only impresses fools, and only liars pretend to believe a non-aggression pact is an alliance, but feel free to prove what no legitimate historian has ever claimed.
Fun Fact btw, Mr. Civilian Casualties:
There have been 12,000 civilian deaths in Ukraine so far (not that one is justified).
How many has Israel killed in a year?
How many died in Iraq and Afghanistan?
How many died because Finland decided to actually ally with fucking Nazis in 1940 and your tiny little brain can't comprehend there is literally no justification for that possible?
Seems like you couldn't give less of a shit about "murdering civilians without pause" when it's your tribe doing it.
Tilting at a strawman only impresses fools, and only liars pretend to believe a non-aggression pact is an alliance,
What is it you would call coordinating military efforts against a common foe?
It would seem it has a different name when the Finns and the Nazis do it than when the Soviets and the Nazis do it.
The Soviets didn't coordinate shit in Poland lol (they couldn't even coordinate among themselves after Stalin murdered their officer corps), the red and black fascists just agreed on temporary spheres of influence. France, Spain, Britain, etc all did similar things when jockeying over colonial possessions at various points, that doesn't mean by itself they were allies in any meaningful meaning of the word. If they were actual allies we'd know because Britain would have been overwhelmed in the air war immediately and troops would have landed in England.
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
Was Stalin staging Soviet airplanes in German territory? Massing Soviet troops in Axis territory anywhere to threaten their neighbors? No? Lending the Luftwaffe planes?
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
... would you like to mention the signatories of the Tripartite Pact for the sake of the rest of the class?
Germany, Italy, and Japan. Despite the name, there were several other signatories, particularly in the Balkans, as Europe began to bend the knee.
Did you think Russia signed it?
Did you think Russia signed it?
... do you think Finland signed it?
Jesus Christ.
I redirect you to
It would seem it has a different name when the Finns and the Nazis do it than when the Soviets and the Nazis do it.
Do you think you can only have one alliance?
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
Btw, this was your boy Ryti's end goal from the indisputable military alliance only a fucking liar would argue wasn't a thing with 100k-200k Nazis attacking from Finnish territory:
Do you think you can only have one alliance?
So you brought up the Tripartite Alliance in a discussion about Finland, contrasting the Tripartite Alliance with the accusation towards the Soviets having done the exact same thing as the Finns, in order to show...
... what, again?
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
You're the one who falsely claimed the Soviets and Axis had an alliance. I pointed to what actual alliances are, since you seemed to be confused by the idea.
What is it you would call coordinating military efforts against a common foe?
It would seem it has a different name when the Finns and the Nazis do it than when the Soviets and the Nazis do it.
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Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
I literally said as much in my very first comment. It's not my fault you're falling over yourself to bootlick Soviet tag-teaming genocide with the Nazis because, I don't know, Finns bad or something. Apparently two things can't be bad at once.
Finland is slightly better than the Soviet Union in that their Nazi collaboration was in response to a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of almost half a million Finns expelled by the Soviets after the unjustified aggression of the Winter War) rather than preceded by a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of Poles in the USSR by the Soviets before the joint Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland). Both remain unconscionable.
Where the fuck is your reading comprehension?
Wherever you keep your intellectual honesty in this comment chain started by revisionist nationalism.
Wherever you keep your intellectual honesty in this comment chain started by revisionist nationalism.
So you have no actual response to the fact that your statement of
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
is based off the fact that you couldn't be arsed to read what I've said because you were tripping over your own shoes to deepthroat a Soviet jackboot?
"Just admit to the very first thing you said". Fuck's sake.
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Ah yes, Europe, the sanest and most just of all 'continents'
Still fairly early for color photography, no? Looks incredible.
It has a watermark explicitly saying it's a colorization. The embossed faux cursive is pretty hard to make out, but it is https://www.jecinci.com/
So it does. I couldn't bother reading the logos when there was an amazing picture to look at. Good thing I'm not a police detective I suppose!
Yeah, it's hand-colored. Kudos to whoever did it, it looks really good.
That was my first thought too, "man this must be colorised right? Or...?"
Stunning picture, looks like a movie poster.
Colour photography has actually existed longer than you expect. There are actually a few real colour images of WW2. Most are coloured afterwards but some real colour images exist.
AGFA developed color photography and the film was available during WW II.
Damn, that's a crazy shot
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