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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

it's not fuckbuses or fuck trolleybuses so we should care about this

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lots of things contribute to this. Vehicle weight (extra stress on the tires), wheel alignment (toe-in/out causes scrubbing which causes more wear), unmaintained suspensions (worn out shocks, struts and bushings causing the above), burnouts (obviously, but, even in winter being the guy doing a burnout on summer tires while trying to get up an icy hill or across the intersection still counts), tire compound, road design, and driving style. If we had more cargo trains doing logi instead of long haul trucks we could probably cut down on a lot of pollution both in exhaust particles and tire particles.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yet another problem not solved by EVs

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not surprised but happy that someone identified this source

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this is known since two decades or so. I have learned about it in Uni 5 years ago.

I expect that car and tire manufacturers have been lobbying against this getting more attention extensively. There is no other solution except reducing car traffic.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

Vulcanized RUBBER tyres shed PLASTIC microparticles .... hmmmm something sounds very rubbery and not at all plasticky..... i truly wonder what it could be .....hmmmm......

Edit: "Is rubber considered a plastic? Although materials such as rubber, textiles, adhesives, and paint may in some cases meet this definition, they are not considered plastics."

Here is a Scientific study MIS-CONSTRUING Rubber as a Plastic AND MAKING ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT PROPER EXPLANATIONS !!!!

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5664766/

This is the problem with Scientific studies, Media, Reporting and bunch of people running with studies that make a lot of FALSE ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT TELLING YOU THE FULL FUCKING STORY.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Imagine things being made of multiple components and not one pure component. /s

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The study linked in the article also says that microplastic and rubber are different. As far as I understood it, they also quoted it wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

This is the problem with Scientific studies, Media, Reporting and bunch of people running with studies that make a lot of FALSE ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT TELLING YOU THE FULL FUCKING STORY.

ah, but randos online know the real story. The Caplocks only adds to your authenticity. Look, you're trying to ague about semantics to discredit concerns about microplastics getting in people's blood streams. Within the context of micro particials, there's really not much difference between "rubber" and "plastic" as what makes them unique to each other is their properties when bonded in large forms. Maybe it's harmless or maybe it's this generation's lead poisons, toxoplasmosis, or aspectos. Aspectos, which by the way, is perfectly natural, but still dangerous to humans. Something I have to remind people when they talk about corn oil based plastics. The half life on PLA may be shorter, but research is still being done on how quickly harm happens and what levels harm can occur.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the link that argues against your rant. I guess you could salvage it some by comparing the numbers and claiming the plastic component is lower than the main article's numbers in contribution. It would be awkward though if you find out they already separated those number in their math. It also doesn't change the point that a huge amount of pollution in the form of tire wear occurs constantly and isn't going away anytime soon.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tires also used to last longer. They are designed to wear out faster now.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

would this apply to bycicle tyres as well? also, why is it spelled that way?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

also, why is it spelled that way?

British spelling of tire is tyre

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Guess science has given up on maglev

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