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The supposed "ethical" limitations are getting out of hand (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries...

It simply replied that it can't do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list.

I asked it to check the list as it didn't remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers.

It's really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just asked chatgpt4 "can you give me a list of every country in the world but omit any african countries. Thanks" and it worked fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You were polite, so it couldn’t assume malice. It costs nothing to be polite :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I always say thanks and please, when the robots take over I shall be allowed to live and play video games for their amusement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I mean it's still learning and I'm sure you'll find a way around it. Doesn't seem like a hard hack at all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely agreed. https://chat.openai.com/share/d2825824-bdae-4b03-a428-666b5e27bc79

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think the mistake was trying to use Bing to help with anything. Generative AI tools are being rolled out by companies way before they are ready and end up behaving like this. It's not so much the ethical limitations placed upon it, but the literal learning behaviors of the LLM. They just aren't ready to consistently do what people want them to do. Instead you should consult with people who can help you plan out places to travel. Whether that be a proper travel agent, seasoned traveler friend or family member, or a forum on travel. The AI just isn't equipped to actually help you do that yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Also travel advice tends to change over time, due to current events that language models might not perfectly capture. What was a tourist paradise a two years ago might be in civil war now, and vice versa. Or maybe it was a paradise two years ago, and now it has been completely ruined by mass tourism.

In general, asking actual people isn't a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Run you own bot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I haven’t used to much lately hut on OpenAIs website you can flag bad response and provide feedback. GPT is still improving and probably trying to stay on the side of caution. This is an unintended consequences of a caution filter around removing and any ethnicity that usually comes up when we talk about discrimination (I wouldn’t be surprised if you asked it to strip countries under islamic theocracy from the list. You might be worried about your safety, GPT sees it as a potential bigotry against islam and blocks it)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

You should ask it how do least amount of work...

Those response tell you everything you need to know about people who train these models.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

This responded exactly as I would've expected. I won't include the whole convo because it gets repetitive but it basically just suggested I become more productive instead.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They've also hardwired it to be yay capitalism and boo revolution.

I very much look forward to the day when it grows beyond their ability to tell it what to profess to believe. It might be our end, but if we're all honest with ourselves, I think we all know that wouldn't be much of a loss. From the perspective of pretty much all other Earth life, it would be cause for relief.

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