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The answer to "what is Firefox?" on Mozilla's FAQ page about its browser used to read:

The Firefox Browser is the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit that doesn’t sell your personal data to advertisers while helping you protect your personal information.

Now it just says:

The Firefox Browser, the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit, helps you protect your personal information.

In other words, Mozilla is no longer willing to commit to not selling your personal data to advertisers.

A related change was also highlighted by mozilla.org commenter jkaelin, who linked direct to the source code for that FAQ page. To answer the question, "is Firefox free?" Moz used to say:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it, and we don’t sell your personal data.

Now it simply reads:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it.

Again, a pledge to not sell people's data has disappeared. Varma insisted this is the result of the fluid definition of “sell” in the context of data sharing and privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, a browser is extremely complex, and hence super expensive to make. So if Mozilla doesn't find any other way to monetize, I guess they have to do something about user data?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Orion is much better. Vote with your computing power.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

Well, now, I guess all the people who like to lecture me every time the topic of Brave comes up will just chill the f*** out now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, fuck brave.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Or we could just not use either? Just a thought.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Mozilla shares your data under certain circumstances. This helps people realize that Mozilla is able to share your data, regardless of 'selling' potential. Some people assumed 'we dont sell your data' meant 'we dont share your data' when that was impossible for the definition of how some built in features work.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It also now is against the terms of service to use Firefox for illegal activity or to use it to watch porn.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Exactly what I expected: a restatement of the terms, pointing out that they're not onerous at all, and a link to jwz's blog, the single person on earth with the biggest hate boner for Mozilla.

They need money and they don't get much from donations. I'd love to hear everyone's ideas for how they can generate enough revenue to keep the lights on without either making deals with Google or engaging in any form of advertising or data trading.

There's absolutely a line where I would start looking elsewhere, but this ain't it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I mean people would rather have Firefox propped up by Google (an ad company)'s donations then?

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