The ability to see votes from the default UI for mods is a big change!
this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2025
33 points (100.0% liked)
Fediverse
629 readers
107 users here now
Downvote are limited to members of this community
Welcome!
Can you imagine, years ago how the internet was before? We know Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok, Youtube. We knew blogger, Tumblr, Skyrock... and long before, it was the forum era as phpBB..and mail-lists.
And now with ActivityPub, we are reshaping the web, and achieving much with lots of freedom. So thank you all, and welcome π€π
Our thread
- [Monthly thread] What fediverse feature/UI do you enjoy the most?
- [Monthly thread] Share your experiences on the fediverse
Resources
Related communities
- [email protected] (for testing federation, formatting on lemmy)
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
If you want to donate, double check on the official website and report any problem to mod team
Social network
Threadiverse
- Flarum | git | donation
- Friendica | git
- Lemmy | git | donate
- Mbin | git
- NodeBB | git
- PieFed | git | donate
Blog
- Wordpress
- WriteFreely | git | donate
Microblog
Event
Mediaverse
Audio
Streaming/live
Book
Culture review
Picture
- Pixelfed | git
- Vernissage | git
Short-video
Video
Image Credits :
Avatar : Wikipedia Eukombos
Banner : David Revoy licence : CC-BY-4.0
Rules
Moderation process
We all make mistakes,
If your comment is reported, and brings up a complex issue, we will reach out to you and ask you to rephrase it.
Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.
If the post isn't edited to remove hurtful language element, we will have to remove it. It would be a shame because your comment was interesting and you took some time to write it.
In case of xenophobia, racism, transphobia, homophobia or harassment, it will be a permanent ban.
- Remember the human: no insults, no aggression, no harassment between users. π«
- Xenophobia, racism, transphobia and other forms of discrimination are forbidden.π
- No duplication. No spam. Avoid paywalls if possible or do a little summary.β
- Use the "Report" function to report content that contravenes the rules.π΄
- Content must be related to Fediverse.
founded 2 months ago
MODERATORS
What's the benefit of seeing how people vote? Feels a bit invasive to me. It also feels like it has the potential for abuse in the wrong hands.
There has been some vote manipulation recently: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/41724398
Giving mods the option to see votes allows them to help the admins in this kind of scenarios.
You can already see votes if you're using different software anyways, check how it looks on my mbin instance, I can click "Activity" and see it already.
That only works for upvotes, Mbin doesn't show downvotes.
Yes, but Kbin used to show downvotes too. I don't think there should be an illusion that they're private, while they can be exposed.
God I remember the debates about this back around the API exodus when Kbin still existed. Even though anyone can technically access vote information by spinning up their own instance that barrier is sufficient for most users. I don't think making voter info completely publicly visible is a good reaction to the fact that it's "technically public anyway". I don't think being able to see exactly who voted what on your posts and comments leads to anything good, neither for the environment as a whole nor for you as an individual.
EDIT: This is for regular users, I obviously don't have a problem with mods and admins having access to this data as it's probably a necessary moderation tool.
That's a good question.
@[email protected] and @[email protected], are the downvotes potentially available but just hidden, or are they not even accessible via API for a standard user?
They are just hidden, but I think no one has access to them via UI. We also have a discussion issue going about respecting the visibility a like activity specifies.
I am torn on this issue. Just because you theoretically can always spin up an instance and just collect the info that way one should not make it as easy as it is today (imo)... But the community seems to be heavily leaning towards @[email protected] 's view
I'm okay with the way Lemmy implemented it in this version:
- admins can see votes, but they can see everything anyway
- mods can see votes, to help with brigading
- users can't see votes
But I'm not an Mbin user, so that should probably be discussed with your users
That's where I am as well, but if Mbin ever takes off we'll see if our reservations about completely public votes were baseless fears.