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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is only June 15, so technically it hasn't even been a full 5 months

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

This is just the end of month 5.

[–] lmmarsano 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Lemmy split hairs between leftists & liberals as if that gets us anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Your statement suggests you don’t know what liberals are

Liberals are just people who believe in limited to no government

As Trump is authoritative they wouldn’t support him but that doesn’t mean they side with leftists. And you’ll find authoritative leftists, like those that complain about Liberals

[–] lmmarsano 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can assure you that in the US of A, that's a distinction without a difference & we just call the left liberals.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No that's just what liberals and their conservative friends like to say so that they can ignore leftists.

[–] lmmarsano 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Lemmy cares, but in practice Americans don't & even the left doesn't pay this as much thought as the weirdos here do. Finer distinctions don't come up all that much in the media or the press, only here. Almost like this place is an echo chamber.

Liberals are the left, conservatives are the right, and everything else is more extreme grades in those respective directions.

In North America, liberalism almost exclusively means social liberalism: progressivism, the expansion of civil & political rights, endorsement of social justice, social services, mixed economy, government intervention to address economic & social issues while emphasizing individual rights and autonomy. That's almost all the left except for the fringier, authoritarian elements.

That's the conventional breakdown in the US, it's fairly coherent, and anything else is noise that isn't speaking their language & doesn't seem to get us anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is just the lie you've been fed by neoliberals for the last 40 years so they could take everything we've worked for. There's a reason why the Democrats lost control of the working class. It's this exact mindset.

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