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Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend (beehaw.org)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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the front page is now like half articles on this currently, so it's probably time for a megathread because none of us want to keep track of 12 threads on this subject and all the resulting comments. only major subsequent developments (for example, boots on the ground; pronunciations by governments; that sort of stuff) will get their own thread. otherwise please post stuff in here for the time being. any threads not meeting this criteria will be locked and removed. thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

The USA are deploying a second CSG to the eastern Mediterranean

I have directed the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group (CSG) to begin moving to the Eastern Mediterranean. As part of our effort to deter hostile actions against Israel or any efforts toward widening this war following Hamas's attack on Israel, the Strike Group includes the guided-missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea (CG 58), guided-missile destroyers USS Gravely (DDG 107) and USS Mason (DDG 87), and Carrier Air Wing 3, with nine aircraft squadrons, and embarked headquarters staffs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

There was a lemmy post that showed beautiful pictures of Israel and Hamas before the attacks and I can't seem to find that post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Israel Is Walking Into a Trap^(^^direct^^)^

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Archive version 404'd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oop fixed ty

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

What an Israeli Ground Invasion Would Mean for Gaza - Time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Eli5 the situation?

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[+] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A couple of points you might find interesting:

Biden was supposed to meet Jordan's King Abdullah, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas cancelled his presence following the hospital bombing, then Biden discussed with King Abdullah and they agreed to call it off.
Biden was not complacent with Israel in his address at Tel Aviv. He urged Israel not to give in to rage, drawing a parallel with USA’s mistakes following 9/11.
During his trip, Biden finally managed to convince Israel to let humanitarian aid into Gaza.

I might be overly optimistic, but I feel that countries (including the US) supporting Israel are in the process of diplomatically clarifying that their support is not really unconditional and that peace is the only acceptable objective. In that sense I don’t think his trip was all bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

To add on to your point, you publicly support allies while having private conversations counseling them on prudent courses of action. They don't listen to you if you call them out publicly, which is usually a sign that privately articulated red lines have been crossed. I'm sure Biden is pressing them privately to have a more measured response, and is likely to have more traction than if he was publicly trashing them.

Just like you don't use all available sanctions out of the gate with an adversarial state, to leave room to negotiate and leave some channels open. Diplomacy is more nuanced than "saying it like it is" all the time.

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